"Lloyd Sheen" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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> For all those who don't think that a recursive search of files in folders
> is a good thing in the  Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem namespace
> listen to this.
>
> I am reorg my mp3 collection.  I have written my own catalog program and
> it has xml files to cache info from tags etc.  To ensure that the process
> goes ok I went to delete all the xml files to force a rescan of the tags.
> This should be simple .....   but this is Vista.
>
> So I use search and get a list of the xml files.  I shift-delete to get
> rid of them.  I go to one of the folders to check on t he delete.  All
> looks ok. I search again and .... the same number of files is presented.
> I shake my head and what is happening.  Ok lets try the delete again.
> Guess what,  the files don't exist.  I kinda knew that but....
>
> Ok after all is done, and I am checking on the files again.  I redo the
> search.  Now I see about twice as many xml files as I expect.  Confusion
> reigns.
>
> Sort them and low and behold there are duplicates for many of the files.
> Since I had changed the folder structure not all were duplicated just the
> ones where folders were left the same.  More confusion.  I check the
> folders and of course there is only one file with the file name (good old
> DOS).  Go to CMD window and check with an old DOS command.  The file
> totals are correct.
>
> Phone MS support.  Explain my problem.  Oh it is the search indexer.  I
> asked if a search which is correct would contain files that were not there
> or duplicates and of course the answer is yes.  That would be an MS yes.
>
> Wrote a simple vb prog to do the search and of course it reflects reality.
>
> Just saw the new Apple commercial about Vista.  Boy do they have it right.
>
> Why I "upgraded" I ask myself just about every day.
>
> thanks for listening
> now back to the development
>
> Lloyd Sheen

"Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
news:OosYkCHMIHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> And your point is?
>
>
> "Lloyd Sheen" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:OjjDYQGMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> For all those who don't think that a recursive search of files in folders
>> is a good thing in the  Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem namespace
>> listen to this.
>>
>> I am reorg my mp3 collection.  I have written my own catalog program and
>> it has xml files to cache info from tags etc.  To ensure that the process
>> goes ok I went to delete all the xml files to force a rescan of the tags.
>> This should be simple .....   but this is Vista.
>>
>> So I use search and get a list of the xml files.  I shift-delete to get
>> rid of them.  I go to one of the folders to check on t he delete.  All
>> looks ok. I search again and .... the same number of files is presented.
>> I shake my head and what is happening.  Ok lets try the delete again.
>> Guess what,  the files don't exist.  I kinda knew that but....
>>
>> Ok after all is done, and I am checking on the files again.  I redo the
>> search.  Now I see about twice as many xml files as I expect.  Confusion
>> reigns.
>>
>> Sort them and low and behold there are duplicates for many of the files.
>> Since I had changed the folder structure not all were duplicated just the
>> ones where folders were left the same.  More confusion.  I check the
>> folders and of course there is only one file with the file name (good old
>> DOS).  Go to CMD window and check with an old DOS command.  The file
>> totals are correct.
>>
>> Phone MS support.  Explain my problem.  Oh it is the search indexer.  I
>> asked if a search which is correct would contain files that were not
>> there or duplicates and of course the answer is yes.  That would be an MS
>> yes.
>>
>> Wrote a simple vb prog to do the search and of course it reflects
>> reality.
>>
>> Just saw the new Apple commercial about Vista.  Boy do they have it
>> right.
>>
>> Why I "upgraded" I ask myself just about every day.
>>
>> thanks for listening
>> now back to the development
>>
>> Lloyd Sheen
>

"C-Services Holland b.v." <cshNOSPAMPLEASE@csh4u.nl> wrote in message
news:67ednYll7Zb1EtDanZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@zeelandnet.nl...
> Lloyd Sheen schreef:
>>
>> Not wanting to have a flame war but I will answer.
>>
>> 1.    Vista - personal preference - mine is thumbs down
>> 2.    What is a search for?  To find existing items.  When it doesn't
>> what good is it.
>> 3.    Support.  When support thinks that finding non-existant items is
>> not a problem with a search engine then what can I say?
>>
>> LS
>
> Actually your point would be to disable the indexing service.
>
> --
> Rinze van Huizen
> C-Services Holland b.v

"Andrew Morton" <a**@in-press.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23w9NPznMIHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Lloyd Sheen wrote:
>> "C-Services Holland b.v." wrote in message
>>> Actually your point would be to disable the indexing service.
>>
>> I have stopped the service, changed it to manual and it starts anyway.
>
> Can't you set it to disabled? Manual only means it won't start until
> something tries to use it, not necessarily the user; automatic means it
> starts when the computer starts.
>
> Andrew
>

"Lloyd Sheen" <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:OjjDYQGMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> For all those who don't think that a recursive search of files in folders
> is a good thing in the  Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem namespace
> listen to this.
>
> I am reorg my mp3 collection.  I have written my own catalog program and
> it has xml files to cache info from tags etc.  To ensure that the process
> goes ok I went to delete all the xml files to force a rescan of the tags.
> This should be simple .....   but this is Vista.
>
> So I use search and get a list of the xml files.  I shift-delete to get
> rid of them.  I go to one of the folders to check on t he delete.  All
> looks ok. I search again and .... the same number of files is presented.
> I shake my head and what is happening.  Ok lets try the delete again.
> Guess what,  the files don't exist.  I kinda knew that but....
>
> Ok after all is done, and I am checking on the files again.  I redo the
> search.  Now I see about twice as many xml files as I expect.  Confusion
> reigns.
>
> Sort them and low and behold there are duplicates for many of the files.
> Since I had changed the folder structure not all were duplicated just the
> ones where folders were left the same.  More confusion.  I check the
> folders and of course there is only one file with the file name (good old
> DOS).  Go to CMD window and check with an old DOS command.  The file
> totals are correct.
>
> Phone MS support.  Explain my problem.  Oh it is the search indexer.  I
> asked if a search which is correct would contain files that were not there
> or duplicates and of course the answer is yes.  That would be an MS yes.
>
> Wrote a simple vb prog to do the search and of course it reflects reality.
>
> Just saw the new Apple commercial about Vista.  Boy do they have it right.
>
> Why I "upgraded" I ask myself just about every day.
>
> thanks for listening
> now back to the development
>
> Lloyd Sheen

>

"Bill Yanaire" <b***@yanaire.com> wrote in message
news:e3dlYSHMIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Lloyd Sheen" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:OjjDYQGMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> For all those who don't think that a recursive search of files in folders
>> is a good thing in the  Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem namespace
>> listen to this.
>>
>> I am reorg my mp3 collection.  I have written my own catalog program and
>> it has xml files to cache info from tags etc.  To ensure that the process
>> goes ok I went to delete all the xml files to force a rescan of the tags.
>> This should be simple .....   but this is Vista.
>>
>> So I use search and get a list of the xml files.  I shift-delete to get
>> rid of them.  I go to one of the folders to check on t he delete.  All
>> looks ok. I search again and .... the same number of files is presented.
>> I shake my head and what is happening.  Ok lets try the delete again.
>> Guess what,  the files don't exist.  I kinda knew that but....
>>
>> Ok after all is done, and I am checking on the files again.  I redo the
>> search.  Now I see about twice as many xml files as I expect.  Confusion
>> reigns.
>>
>> Sort them and low and behold there are duplicates for many of the files.
>> Since I had changed the folder structure not all were duplicated just the
>> ones where folders were left the same.  More confusion.  I check the
>> folders and of course there is only one file with the file name (good old
>> DOS).  Go to CMD window and check with an old DOS command.  The file
>> totals are correct.
>>
>> Phone MS support.  Explain my problem.  Oh it is the search indexer.  I
>> asked if a search which is correct would contain files that were not
>> there or duplicates and of course the answer is yes.  That would be an MS
>> yes.
>>
>> Wrote a simple vb prog to do the search and of course it reflects
>> reality.
>>
>> Just saw the new Apple commercial about Vista.  Boy do they have it
>> right.
>>
>> Why I "upgraded" I ask myself just about every day.
>>
>> thanks for listening
>> now back to the development
>>
>> Lloyd Sheen
>
> Back to development.  The big question is:  Have you backed up your
> development files and your MP3 files?
>
>
>>
>
>

"Lloyd Sheen" <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:OjjDYQGMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> For all those who don't think that a recursive search of files in folders
> is a good thing in the  Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem namespace
> listen to this.
>
> I am reorg my mp3 collection.  I have written my own catalog program and
> it has xml files to cache info from tags etc.  To ensure that the process
> goes ok I went to delete all the xml files to force a rescan of the tags.
> This should be simple .....   but this is Vista.
>
> So I use search and get a list of the xml files.  I shift-delete to get
> rid of them.  I go to one of the folders to check on t he delete.  All
> looks ok. I search again and .... the same number of files is presented.
> I shake my head and what is happening.  Ok lets try the delete again.
> Guess what,  the files don't exist.  I kinda knew that but....
>
> Ok after all is done, and I am checking on the files again.  I redo the
> search.  Now I see about twice as many xml files as I expect.  Confusion
> reigns.
>
> Sort them and low and behold there are duplicates for many of the files.
> Since I had changed the folder structure not all were duplicated just the
> ones where folders were left the same.  More confusion.  I check the
> folders and of course there is only one file with the file name (good old
> DOS).  Go to CMD window and check with an old DOS command.  The file
> totals are correct.
>
> Phone MS support.  Explain my problem.  Oh it is the search indexer.  I
> asked if a search which is correct would contain files that were not there
> or duplicates and of course the answer is yes.  That would be an MS yes.
>
> Wrote a simple vb prog to do the search and of course it reflects reality.
>
> Just saw the new Apple commercial about Vista.  Boy do they have it right.
>
> Why I "upgraded" I ask myself just about every day.
>
> thanks for listening
> now back to the development
>
> Lloyd Sheen

"Michael D. Ober" <ober***@.alum.mit.edu.nospam> wrote in message
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> "Lloyd Sheen" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:OjjDYQGMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> For all those who don't think that a recursive search of files in folders
>> is a good thing in the  Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem namespace
>> listen to this.
>>
>> I am reorg my mp3 collection.  I have written my own catalog program and
>> it has xml files to cache info from tags etc.  To ensure that the process
>> goes ok I went to delete all the xml files to force a rescan of the tags.
>> This should be simple .....   but this is Vista.
>>
>> So I use search and get a list of the xml files.  I shift-delete to get
>> rid of them.  I go to one of the folders to check on t he delete.  All
>> looks ok. I search again and .... the same number of files is presented.
>> I shake my head and what is happening.  Ok lets try the delete again.
>> Guess what,  the files don't exist.  I kinda knew that but....
>>
>> Ok after all is done, and I am checking on the files again.  I redo the
>> search.  Now I see about twice as many xml files as I expect.  Confusion
>> reigns.
>>
>> Sort them and low and behold there are duplicates for many of the files.
>> Since I had changed the folder structure not all were duplicated just the
>> ones where folders were left the same.  More confusion.  I check the
>> folders and of course there is only one file with the file name (good old
>> DOS).  Go to CMD window and check with an old DOS command.  The file
>> totals are correct.
>>
>> Phone MS support.  Explain my problem.  Oh it is the search indexer.  I
>> asked if a search which is correct would contain files that were not
>> there or duplicates and of course the answer is yes.  That would be an MS
>> yes.
>>
>> Wrote a simple vb prog to do the search and of course it reflects
>> reality.
>>
>> Just saw the new Apple commercial about Vista.  Boy do they have it
>> right.
>>
>> Why I "upgraded" I ask myself just about every day.
>>
>> thanks for listening
>> now back to the development
>>
>> Lloyd Sheen
>
> I've seen this same behavior in XP Pro.  You would think the delete calls
> in the API would also notify the index manager to remove the file from the
> indexes.
>
> Mike.
>
>