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Re: Schedule broken after UpdateRollup1

Author
11 Nov 2007 7:50 PM
Reinhard
After almost one year of endless trials, to find a solution for this
scheduler-problem, I am conviced, that this is a real

problem of the Microsoft-security-update KB841873 (MS04-022). In the
meantime I could confirm this scheduler-problem with

approx. 10 new installations of Windows 2000 Professional Sp4 german and
with one new installation of Windows 2000

Professional Sp4 chinese. So I think, that it might concern all
language-versions of Windows 2000 Professional SP4.

As a german customer without a service-agreement I would have to pay 99,--
EUR for an eMail-request to Microsoft and much more

for a phone-call. Maybe there is somebody with a service-contract, who could
tell Microsoft about this.

From my point of view there are for the moment only two possible workarounds:

1. Use an alternative scheduler

   (if you can - I cannot for certain reasons)

2. Do not install the updates concerned

   Note:
   -----

   If you do not install KB841873 (MS04-022),
   the security-risk remains on your computer.

Workaround 2. in detail:
-----------------------

- deinstall Past_Sp4_Rollup1 (KB891861),
  using "Software" in Start - Settings - Computer
  and restart your computer, as desired.

- confirm, that schedule is running
  (it should).

- activate "automatic updates" and wait, until
  "new updates are available".
  (You can force this by visiting the Windows-Update
   website, but do not install any updates offered
   there for the time being).

- start the installation of updates by clicking
  the respective tray icon and choose
  "user defined installation".

- deselect Past_Sp4_Rollup1 (KB891861) and confirm,
  that you do not want to see this update again.

- wait again, until
  "new updates are available".
  (You can force this by visiting the Windows-Update
   website, but do not install any updates offered
   there for the time being).

- start the installation of updates by clicking
  the respective tray icon and choose
  "user defined installation".

- deselect KB841873 (MS04-022) and confirm,
  that you do not want to see this update again.

Now you can set "automatic updates" as you like it.
Generally I recommend, to leave it on "automatic".

Note:
----

If you ever chosse the option "show disabled updates again"
in the settings of automatic updates, Past_Sp4_Rollup1 (KB891861)
will be installed again and schedule will be broken again.
Then you have to repeat the whole procedure, as described above.

Reinhard



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"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> Good to hear you're at the root of the cause. Support for security updates
> is always free so I'd give product support a call at 1-866-PCSAFETY
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
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>
> "Reinhard" wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > thanks for your advice. To tell you the result before: MS04-022 (KB841873)
> > is the reason for the trouble.
> >
> > This morning I deinstalled UpdateRollup 1, restarted the computer and
> > schedule was running. Then I installed MS04-022 (KB841873) and after the
> > restart schedule was broken as mentioned before.
> >
> > So I removed KB841873 again and schedule was running again.
> >
> > I have a downloaded collection of security patches from MS03-039 up to
> > MS04-045 and I installed them all, leaving out MS04-022 - shedule is
> > running.
> >
> > Now I have to download all further missing updates, leaving out
> > UpdateRollup1.
> >
> > And I cannot use automatic updates anymore.
> >
> > Which means, I have a workaround, but not the final solution.
> >
> > Thank you again for your support.
> >
> > Regards
> > Reinhard
>

Author
11 Nov 2007 8:42 PM
Dave Patrick
You might try asking in the partner newsgroups.

https://partner.microsoft.com/US/30000104

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

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"Reinhard" wrote:
> After almost one year of endless trials, to find a solution for this
> scheduler-problem, I am conviced, that this is a real
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Author
18 Nov 2007 5:12 PM
Reinhard
Hi Dave,

The solution of the problem is in security settings of the computer.

While the old version of mstask was working well with
ports 135 and 1025 closed, the new version needs
ports 135 and 1025 opened.

A description can be found here:

http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html#_known-probs

and here more detailed in german:

http://www.ntsvcfg.de/scheduler.html

Just to complete the information here are the different
versions of mstask.exe and mstask.dll:


Sp4:      mstask.exe 4.71.2195.6704 dated 06/20/2003
          mstask.dll 4.71.2195.6704 dated 06/20/2003

KB841873: mstask.exe 4.71.2195.6920 dated 04/05/2004
          mstask.dll 4.71.2195.6920 dated 06/10/2004

KB873405: mstask.exe 4.71.2195.6961 dated 07/27/2004

Rollup 1: mstask.exe 4.71.2195.6972 dated 06/02/2005
          mstask.dll 4.71.2195.6972 dated 06/02/2005

Many thanks for your advice, to ask in the partner newsgroup. I found the
right lead there.

Reinhard



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"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> You might try asking in the partner newsgroups.
>
> https://partner.microsoft.com/US/30000104
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "Reinhard" wrote:
> > After almost one year of endless trials, to find a solution for this
> > scheduler-problem, I am conviced, that this is a real
Author
18 Nov 2007 9:08 PM
Dave Patrick
Good to hear. You're welcome.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

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"Reinhard" wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> The solution of the problem is in security settings of the computer.
>
> While the old version of mstask was working well with
> ports 135 and 1025 closed, the new version needs
> ports 135 and 1025 opened.
>
> A description can be found here:
>
> http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html#_known-probs
>
> and here more detailed in german:
>
> http://www.ntsvcfg.de/scheduler.html
>
> Just to complete the information here are the different
> versions of mstask.exe and mstask.dll:
>
>
> Sp4:      mstask.exe 4.71.2195.6704 dated 06/20/2003
>          mstask.dll 4.71.2195.6704 dated 06/20/2003
>
> KB841873: mstask.exe 4.71.2195.6920 dated 04/05/2004
>          mstask.dll 4.71.2195.6920 dated 06/10/2004
>
> KB873405: mstask.exe 4.71.2195.6961 dated 07/27/2004
>
> Rollup 1: mstask.exe 4.71.2195.6972 dated 06/02/2005
>          mstask.dll 4.71.2195.6972 dated 06/02/2005
>
> Many thanks for your advice, to ask in the partner newsgroup. I found the
> right lead there.
>
> Reinhard

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