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VB for .NET Recommended?Hi,
I'm considering using VB for .NET development (as opposed to C#). Does anyone have advice? Thank You "Greg" <g*@mcpherran.com> schrieb: I am wondering what you want to hear from people posting to a VB.NET group. > I'm considering using VB for .NET development (as opposed to C#). Does > anyone have advice? Personally I use VB.NET and C++(/CLI) when necessary and thus do not need C#. -- M S Herfried K. Wagner M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/> V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/> I love VB.NET (hence my name). :)
I never use C# and dont need to for anything I do.... Show quoteHide quote "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-here@gmx.at> wrote in message news:%232iW0BjGGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > "Greg" <g*@mcpherran.com> schrieb: >> I'm considering using VB for .NET development (as opposed to C#). Does >> anyone have advice? > > I am wondering what you want to hear from people posting to a VB.NET > group. Personally I use VB.NET and C++(/CLI) when necessary and thus do > not need C#. > > -- > M S Herfried K. Wagner > M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/> > V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/> "VB Programmer" <d***@emailme.com> schrieb: My experience with both VB.NET and C# is about 1:1, so I know C# and have >I love VB.NET (hence my name). :) > > I never use C# and dont need to for anything I do.... reasons not to recommend its use. -- M S Herfried K. Wagner M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/> V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/> It depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for speedy
development go for VB. If you want slightly more power, spend more time learning C#. I work with VB and I am pretty happy where I am. Regards Cyril Gupta Hi,
C# and VB.Net use the same framework. Why do you think that you have slightly more power with C#? Ken ------------------ Show quoteHide quote "Cyril Gupta" <nom***@mail.com> wrote in message news:OAEtJQjGGHA.608@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > It depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for speedy > development go for VB. If you want slightly more power, spend more time > learning C#. I work with VB and I am pretty happy where I am. > > Regards > Cyril Gupta > I think the power of a language goes deeper than what framework it is based
on. How the language is structured also does a lot for it. C# is a fully object oriented language with advanced features like pointers. That's what makes it slightly more powerful than VB. Of course you can nearly do in VB what you can do in C#. But some things, like writing a directX game would be more efficient done in c# then in VB. Regards Cyril Gupta Cyril,
All your statements are wrong, except with the DirectX where you can use unsafe code with C# are all statements wrong. The documentation around DirectX beside C++ is by the way lousy for Net. For VB.Net there is almost nothing while there is something for C#. Using Net program languages is everything done by the CLI wherefore is created intermediate code in the same way for all the languages. Although there are some real Net parts which are basically not in C# however standard alone in VB.Net which can make a VBNet program quicker than a C# program. But you can import those almost all in C# as well. Cor Hello Cor,
Hmm.... I am not contesting the CLI or the framework. I merely believe that you can use pointers in C#, while in VB.Net you have to make do with delegates, and that C# supports 100% object oriented features, while VB does not. Are these statements wrong? I need to re-study my books then :) Heh Cyril > Hello Cor,
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/csref/html/vcrefthedelegatetype.asp
> > Hmm.... I am not contesting the CLI or the framework. I merely believe > that you can use pointers in C#, while in VB.Net you have to make do with > delegates, and that C# supports 100% object oriented features, while VB > does not. Are these statements wrong? > > I need to re-study my books then :) > VBNet supports 100% OOP. However does not do them the same as in the way as it is done technical in C++. The last is in my opinion more and more a to time consuming program-language to use for real standard business applications. Cor Hi,
Pointers are only supported by c# in unsafe code blocks. Ken ------------------ Show quoteHide quote "Cyril Gupta" <nom***@mail.com> wrote in message news:OcQQfenGGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > Hello Cor, > > Hmm.... I am not contesting the CLI or the framework. I merely believe > that you can use pointers in C#, while in VB.Net you have to make do with > delegates, and that C# supports 100% object oriented features, while VB > does not. Are these statements wrong? > > I need to re-study my books then :) > > Heh > Cyril > "Cyril Gupta" <nom***@mail.com> schrieb: The latter statement is wrong. VB.NET is more object oriented than C#. In > Hmm.... I am not contesting the CLI or the framework. I merely believe > that you can use pointers in C#, while in VB.Net you have to make do with > delegates, and that C# supports 100% object oriented features, while VB > does not. Are these statements wrong? /addition/ it supports some non object oriented features which complement the object oriented features perfectly. It's true that C# provides support for pointers directly in the language, but there are only rare cases where this feature is needed and thus I would not base my decision to use C# instead of VB.NET on this little difference. -- M S Herfried K. Wagner M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/> V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/> Hello Herfried,
Hmm... VB more object oriented that C#? Hmm... That's a new. I didn't say a thing about preferring C# over VB :)... I am a VB lover as good if not more than the rest of us. I was just trying to be objective in my post there... Cheers! Cyril Cyril,
Searching for something else my eye catched this article. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308470 I thought just what we were talking about. Cor Cyril,
> In the previous message of course> All your statements are wrong, :-)) Cor"Cyril Gupta" <nom***@mail.com> schrieb: VB.NET is an even more object oriented than C# is (built-in support for late >I think the power of a language goes deeper than what framework it is based >on. How the language is structured also does a lot for it. C# is a fully >object oriented language with advanced features like pointers. binding (polymorphism!), declarative interface implementation, ...) and provides some great features like declarative event handling. For pointers I prefer C++(/CLI) over C#. No need for C# at all. > That's what makes it slightly more powerful than VB. This depends on how you define "power". I do not define it as some nanoseconds faster execution, but instead a more powerful syntax. > what you can do in C#. But some things, like writing a directX game would Again I'd use C++ for this purpose.> be more efficient done in c# then in VB. -- M S Herfried K. Wagner M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/> V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/> Herfried,
I read some more articles on the topic, and let me tell you. I agree with you 100%. VB rules all the way. Please treat my earlier post as cancelled :) Cheers! Cyril "Greg" <g*@mcpherran.com> wrote in message Not advice. VB will be faster to develop and cheaper to maintain. YMMV.news:E1341EC4-2EC3-49BF-A20A-85F5C8F380D2@microsoft.com... > I'm considering using VB for .NET development (as opposed to C#). Does > anyone have advice? "Greg" <g*@mcpherran.com> wrote in message Both VB and C# are comparable and can do pretty much the same things. Thenews:E1341EC4-2EC3-49BF-A20A-85F5C8F380D2@microsoft.com... : Hi, : : I'm considering using VB for .NET development (as opposed to C#). Does : anyone have advice? : : Thank You differences are primarily in the syntax although the two languages bring different advantages to the table (e.g.: C# supports 'unsafe' code whereas VB doesn't). Where do you plan on going with this and what is your background? If you have no programming experience, you may find the more english like syntax of VB easier to learn than C#. If you've coded in C/C++ or Java, you'd likely be more comfortable with C#. It is often alleged that C# programmers are more likely to demand a higher salary than VB.net programmers. That may be true (I don't know, personally) and if so, reflects a market bias more than anything else. Examples are often given in C# on the web (although ASP.NET seems to have more examples written in VB). That may be enough to sway you. In any event, it wouldn't hurt to pick one language as your primary language for .net but have at least a basic understanding of the other. Ralf -- ---------------------------------------------------------- * ^~^ ^~^ * * _ {~ ~} {~ ~} _ * * /_``>*< >*<''_\ * * (\--_)++) (++(_--/) * ---------------------------------------------------------- There are no advanced students in Aikido - there are only competent beginners. There are no advanced techniques - only the correct application of basic principles. "_AnonCoward" wrote: My background is C/C++/C# with some pre .NET VB experience. My interest/use > Where do you plan on going with this and what is your background? of .NET spans both web and desktop development. I like to survery the landscape and hear pros and cons as part of my decision processes. For example if someone could tell me hands down that VB has a clear advantage for a particular task or area then I consider that strongly. The sense I get is that the whole point of .NET is that it is (supposed to be) language neutral so that if one has a language preference they just use that as there are no pressing factors. That being the case, and since I find VB syntax/code format clearer than C-like languages (which I have used for years) then I switching might be something to consider. From the responses I've received, I see no pressing reason to switch (and some potential reasons not to).
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"Greg" <g*@mcpherran.com> wrote in message Yeah, since you're familiar and comfortable with the C/C++ syntax already,news:2E138B85-EF4C-47B4-BB8D-D513FDB9C97D@microsoft.com... : : "_AnonCoward" wrote: : : > Where do you plan on going with this and what is your background? : : My background is C/C++/C# with some pre .NET VB experience. My : interest/use of .NET spans both web and desktop development. : : I like to survery the landscape and hear pros and cons as part of my : decision processes. For example if someone could tell me hands down that : VB has a clear advantage for a particular task or area then I consider : that strongly. : : The sense I get is that the whole point of .NET is that it is (supposed to : be) language neutral so that if one has a language preference they just : use that as there are no pressing factors. That being the case, and since : I find VB syntax/code format clearer than C-like languages (which I have : used for years) then I switching might be something to consider. : : From the responses I've received, I see no pressing reason to switch (and : some potential reasons not to). the move to C# will be very straight forward. Still, here is a URL you may find useful (Top 10 reasons VB.NET is better than C#): http://www.vbrad.com/pf.asp?p=source/src_top_10_vb.htm And of course, there's this for the contrary view (Top 10 reasons C# is better than VB.NET): http://www.vbrad.com/source/src_top_10_cs.htm I find it interesting that the C# listing is less substantial than the VB list. Ralf -- -- ---------------------------------------------------------- * ^~^ ^~^ * * _ {~ ~} {~ ~} _ * * /_``>*< >*<''_\ * * (\--_)++) (++(_--/) * ---------------------------------------------------------- There are no advanced students in Aikido - there are only competent beginners. There are no advanced techniques - only the correct application of basic principles. "Greg" <g*@mcpherran.com> schrieb Read the archives (groups.google.com). It's been discussed 1001 times.> Hi, > > I'm considering using VB for .NET development (as opposed to C#). > Does anyone have advice? Armin Hi Greg,
Most of the .NET learning curve is about its concepts and libraries, being the language a thin layer on top of all. So, many of us can use both languages quite fluently. In general, if you have a Java/C/C++ background, you may feel more comfortable using C# and if you have a VB6 background, you may like more VB.NET. The capabilities, speed, etc. of both languages are the same for most projects and the bigger differences are in the IDE experience with each one. -- Show quoteHide quoteBest regards, Carlos J. Quintero MZ-Tools: Productivity add-ins for Visual Studio You can code, design and document much faster: http://www.mztools.com "Greg" <g*@mcpherran.com> escribió en el mensaje news:E1341EC4-2EC3-49BF-A20A-85F5C8F380D2@microsoft.com... > Hi, > > I'm considering using VB for .NET development (as opposed to C#). Does > anyone have advice? > > Thank You > -- > Greg McPherran > www.McPherran.com 
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