Have you upgraded to VS 2005?

3 Apr 2006 8:42 AM

JJ

Just wondered if you have found some distinct improvements that are worth
mentioning.

I have found that I have spent a lit of time recently coding things that I
wonder may be improved in VS 2005 - I wonder if any of you have found that
they are better in VS 2005?

Oh and do can you produce a forms app in 2005 without having the user
upgrade from .Net 1.1? I am concerned that some users won't want to update
their dot net yet.

The items I would hope are improved are:
i) deployment [help system authoring, bootstrapper, serial
numbering/licensing system, etc]
ii) GUI [menu design(icons etc)]

I've lots more but those are the main ones that are bothering me at the
moment...

If there's anything you more experienced prgrammers feel is worth mentioning
about VS 2005 to convince me to part with money to upgrade, then please
mention it.

TIA

JJ

3 Apr 2006 10:28 AM

Ken Tucker [MVP]

Hi,

I have upgraded to vs 2005. There are a lot of new controls
like the toolstrip and the datagridview which are really nice. Edit and
continue was brought back. Code snippets are awsome.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/we86c8x2(en-US,VS.80).aspx

Links to free ebooks
http://www.vb-tips.com/default.aspx?ID=1b31f4f7-0596-4b8e-aaf5-e16db864a414

You can try vb express for free for 1 year
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vb/

Ken
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"JJ" <a**@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Just wondered if you have found some distinct improvements that are worth
> mentioning.
>
> I have found that I have spent a lit of time recently coding things that I
> wonder may be improved in VS 2005 - I wonder if any of you have found that
> they are better in VS 2005?
>
> Oh and do can you produce a forms app in 2005 without having the user
> upgrade from .Net 1.1? I am concerned that some users won't want to update
> their dot net yet.
>
> The items I would hope are improved are:
> i) deployment [help system authoring, bootstrapper, serial
> numbering/licensing system, etc]
> ii) GUI [menu design(icons etc)]
>
> I've lots more but those are the main ones that are bothering me at the
> moment...
>
> If there's anything you more experienced prgrammers feel is worth
> mentioning about VS 2005 to convince me to part with money to upgrade,
> then please mention it.
>
> TIA
>
> JJ
>

3 Apr 2006 10:40 AM

Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

"Ken Tucker [MVP]" <vb***@bellsouth.net> schrieb:
> You can try vb express for free for 1 year
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vb/

.... which doesn't mean that Express editions are time-bombed. They won't
quit working after one year. It's only the offer which is offered for one
year.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/>

4 Apr 2006 12:31 AM

Dennis

Do you find VB.Net 2005 as slow as some others have mentioned in this Group?
I am considering upgrading to VB.Net 2005 but was waiting until the first SP
came out and then monitor the group to see if the complaints still continue.

--
Dennis in Houston

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"Ken Tucker [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have upgraded to vs 2005. There are a lot of new controls
> like the toolstrip and the datagridview which are really nice. Edit and
> continue was brought back. Code snippets are awsome.
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/we86c8x2(en-US,VS.80).aspx
>
> Links to free ebooks
> http://www.vb-tips.com/default.aspx?ID=1b31f4f7-0596-4b8e-aaf5-e16db864a414
>
> You can try vb express for free for 1 year
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vb/
>
> Ken
> ------------
> "JJ" <a**@xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:e5lqIqvVGHA.1576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Just wondered if you have found some distinct improvements that are worth
> > mentioning.
> >
> > I have found that I have spent a lit of time recently coding things that I
> > wonder may be improved in VS 2005 - I wonder if any of you have found that
> > they are better in VS 2005?
> >
> > Oh and do can you produce a forms app in 2005 without having the user
> > upgrade from .Net 1.1? I am concerned that some users won't want to update
> > their dot net yet.
> >
> > The items I would hope are improved are:
> > i) deployment [help system authoring, bootstrapper, serial
> > numbering/licensing system, etc]
> > ii) GUI [menu design(icons etc)]
> >
> > I've lots more but those are the main ones that are bothering me at the
> > moment...
> >
> > If there's anything you more experienced prgrammers feel is worth
> > mentioning about VS 2005 to convince me to part with money to upgrade,
> > then please mention it.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > JJ
> >
>
>
>

5 Apr 2006 3:16 PM

Carlos J. Quintero [VB MVP]

Hi Dennis,

You do need to ensure that you are using 1GB RAM or more to run it
comfortably. That's a necessary condition, not a sufficient condition...

There are also things that you can turn off to improve the performance such
as the Edit and Continue, the Refactoring on Rename feature, etc.

--

Best regards,

Carlos J. Quintero

MZ-Tools: Productivity add-ins for Visual Studio
You can code, design and document much faster:
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"Dennis" <Den***@discussions.microsoft.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> Do you find VB.Net 2005 as slow as some others have mentioned in this
> Group?
> I am considering upgrading to VB.Net 2005 but was waiting until the first
> SP
> came out and then monitor the group to see if the complaints still
> continue.
> --
> Dennis in Houston

5 Apr 2006 7:00 PM

aaron.kempf

wow 1gb, huh?

so if i have 3 database instances and a couple of Olap instances; and i
have 768 memory.. then what does that mean?

on a slow old P3 1.1ghz.

it's fast enough for me. and i've always got a dozen other apps open;
including dreamweaver; sql server managemenet studio

it works great

6 Apr 2006 6:16 PM

aaron.kempf

maybe i just dont write enough code

i'll try writing more verbose code and see if it ties up a gb ram lol

7 Apr 2006 8:45 AM

JJ

Is it possible to write code in VS 2005 that only requires the user to have
..net 1.1 installed and not version 2.0?

That would make the upgrade path a little easier for me.

JJ

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"JJ" <a**@xyz.com> wrote in message
news:e5lqIqvVGHA.1576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Just wondered if you have found some distinct improvements that are worth
> mentioning.
>
> I have found that I have spent a lit of time recently coding things that I
> wonder may be improved in VS 2005 - I wonder if any of you have found that
> they are better in VS 2005?
>
> Oh and do can you produce a forms app in 2005 without having the user
> upgrade from .Net 1.1? I am concerned that some users won't want to update
> their dot net yet.
>
> The items I would hope are improved are:
> i) deployment [help system authoring, bootstrapper, serial
> numbering/licensing system, etc]
> ii) GUI [menu design(icons etc)]
>
> I've lots more but those are the main ones that are bothering me at the
> moment...
>
> If there's anything you more experienced prgrammers feel is worth
> mentioning about VS 2005 to convince me to part with money to upgrade,
> then please mention it.
>
> TIA
>
> JJ
>

13 Apr 2006 10:53 PM

aaron.kempf@gmail.com

i dont think that it is.

we've been asking for it; but MS is a bunch of drunk C++ retards that
are too proud to do anything correctly.

13 Apr 2006 11:13 PM

Jeff Dillon

at least we know how to properly reply to a thread!

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>i dont think that it is.
>
> we've been asking for it; but MS is a bunch of drunk C++ retards that
> are too proud to do anything correctly.
>