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RE: Which software do I need to program VisualBasic ?

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4 Apr 2006 7:49 PM
ralph
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"Frank Callone" wrote:

> Until now I programmed a lot with C++ and Java. Now I want (have) to do some programming with
> Visual Basic. Which software do I need for this ?
> Which is the best GUI development tool for Visual Basic?
>
> When I search through Google it seems to me that most of the introduction think that
> Visual Basic is pre-installed. But I did not found a Visual Basic compiler on my Win2000 system.
> Where can I download the VisualBasic environment for Win2000 (WinXP) and where
> a good GUI development IDE?
>
> Moreover I did not found any introduction web sites which explain the difference
> between (traditional) Visual Basic and VB based on dotnet.
>
> Please, could someone point me to a good software guide.
>
> Thank you
> Frank
>

In addition to Jeff's reply.

Classic Visual Basic (vb6 and below) is discontinued. MS's only Visual Basic
offering at the moment is Visual Basic.Net. (aka VS/VB 2003/2005).

To do VB6 development you will need to purchase Visual Studio 6. It is no
longer available thru MS except if you have a subscription (and you likely
don't or you wouldn't have asked. <g>). You can buy it at various sources on
the internet. It is best to go ahead an purchase the full VS 6 (VB and VC++)
pro or enterprise version, as the difference in price from buying just VB is
slight compared to the benifits of the additional tools.

If it is VB.net then you may get by using the VB 2005 Express Edition. Free
download from MS, but you need some software to create a freestanding install
from the downloaded image file, or you can purchase it with several books
(Wrox sells a book "Visual Basic Express Edition Startup" for $39 that
includes the CD.)

Find out which VB you need to use.

As for spelling out the differences - that takes volumes. Essentially VB.Net
and VBc are totally different languages and environments.

hth
-ralph

Author
4 Apr 2006 8:29 PM
Ken Halter
"ralph" <ra***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> To do VB6 development you will need to purchase Visual Studio 6. It is no
> longer available thru MS except if you have a subscription (and you likely

Just an FYI here.... VS6 is no longer available to MSDN subscribers . You
can still get VB6 with an MSDN subscription.... but only for a short while.
VB2, 3 and 4 are still readily available since they don't install MSJVM...
which is nuts because VB doesn't require MSJVM and it's easily installed
without it.... but, since VB5/6 are direct competitors to "the new toy",
instead if simply fixing the installer, the entire package will be removed
forever.


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4 Apr 2006 11:10 PM
ralph
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"Ken Halter" wrote:

> "ralph" <ra***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:050C923A-7845-4A32-A5CF-9B366032A048@microsoft.com...
> >
> > To do VB6 development you will need to purchase Visual Studio 6. It is no
> > longer available thru MS except if you have a subscription (and you likely
>
> Just an FYI here.... VS6 is no longer available to MSDN subscribers . You
> can still get VB6 with an MSDN subscription.... but only for a short while.
> VB2, 3 and 4 are still readily available since they don't install MSJVM...
> which is nuts because VB doesn't require MSJVM and it's easily installed
> without it.... but, since VB5/6 are direct competitors to "the new toy",
> instead if simply fixing the installer, the entire package will be removed
> forever.
>
>
> --
> Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - Please keep all discussions in the groups..
> DLL Hell problems? Try ComGuard - http://www.vbsight.com/ComGuard.htm
>


I didn't know that.

Thankfully I have kept every disk.

They just keep chipping away. <g>

-ralph
Author
5 Apr 2006 1:33 AM
Karl E. Peterson
ralph wrote:
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> "Ken Halter" wrote:
>
>> "ralph" <ra***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote ...
>>>
>>> To do VB6 development you will need to purchase Visual Studio 6. It
>>> is no longer available thru MS except if you have a subscription
>>> (and you likely
>>
>> Just an FYI here.... VS6 is no longer available to MSDN subscribers
>> . You can still get VB6 with an MSDN subscription.... but only for a
>> short while. VB2, 3 and 4 are still readily available since they
>> don't install MSJVM... which is nuts because VB doesn't require
>> MSJVM and it's easily installed without it.... but, since VB5/6 are
>> direct competitors to "the new toy", instead if simply fixing the
>> installer, the entire package will be removed forever.
>
> I didn't know that.
>
> Thankfully I have kept every disk.
>
> They just keep chipping away. <g>

I suspect this is one torrent that will never die...

  http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3266833

<sigh>
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Author
5 Apr 2006 10:24 PM
ralph
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"Karl E. Peterson" wrote:

> ralph wrote:
> > "Ken Halter" wrote:
> >
> >> "ralph" <ra***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote ...
> >>>
> >>> To do VB6 development you will need to purchase Visual Studio 6. It
> >>> is no longer available thru MS except if you have a subscription
> >>> (and you likely
> >>
> >> Just an FYI here.... VS6 is no longer available to MSDN subscribers
> >> . You can still get VB6 with an MSDN subscription.... but only for a
> >> short while. VB2, 3 and 4 are still readily available since they
> >> don't install MSJVM... which is nuts because VB doesn't require
> >> MSJVM and it's easily installed without it.... but, since VB5/6 are
> >> direct competitors to "the new toy", instead if simply fixing the
> >> installer, the entire package will be removed forever.
> >
> > I didn't know that.
> >
> > Thankfully I have kept every disk.
> >
> > They just keep chipping away. <g>
>
> I suspect this is one torrent that will never die...
>
>   http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3266833
>
> <sigh>
> --
> Working without a .NET?
> http://classicvb.org/
>
>
>


ROFL!

I just happened to read on the comments the website and noticed the plight
of poor Mr/Miss jbysmith ...

"Anyone happen to know if this one includes the help files? I've only been
able to find one complete copy so far.. and its in Korean ugh."

Note the "this one" - Ghod knows how many gig has been downloaded to date.

I have definitely had one of those days... <g>

-ralph
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5 Apr 2006 10:36 PM
Karl E. Peterson
ralph wrote:
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> "Karl E. Peterson" wrote:
>
>> ralph wrote:
>>> "Ken Halter" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "ralph" <ra***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote ...
>>>>>
>>>>> To do VB6 development you will need to purchase Visual Studio 6.
>>>>> It is no longer available thru MS except if you have a
>>>>> subscription (and you likely
>>>>
>>>> Just an FYI here.... VS6 is no longer available to MSDN subscribers
>>>> . You can still get VB6 with an MSDN subscription.... but only for
>>>> a short while. VB2, 3 and 4 are still readily available since they
>>>> don't install MSJVM... which is nuts because VB doesn't require
>>>> MSJVM and it's easily installed without it.... but, since VB5/6 are
>>>> direct competitors to "the new toy", instead if simply fixing the
>>>> installer, the entire package will be removed forever.
>>>
>>> I didn't know that.
>>>
>>> Thankfully I have kept every disk.
>>>
>>> They just keep chipping away. <g>
>>
>> I suspect this is one torrent that will never die...
>>
>>   http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3266833
>>
>> <sigh>
>
> ROFL!
>
> I just happened to read on the comments the website and noticed the
> plight of poor Mr/Miss jbysmith ...
>
> "Anyone happen to know if this one includes the help files? I've only
> been able to find one complete copy so far.. and its in Korean ugh."
>
> Note the "this one" - Ghod knows how many gig has been downloaded to
> date.

Yeah, ain't P2P grand? <bg>

> I have definitely had one of those days... <g>

I hear that...
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