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Sub Main() refusing to workThis is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't figure
it out. In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy under project properties. In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I want the program to start in. I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the shared parameter) but I just can't get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's always in some form_load it wants to startup. Why? Adam Adam Honek wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't figure Show us the code you use to make the the module sub main. It should > it out. > > In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy under > project properties. > > In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I want > the program to start in. > > I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the shared > parameter) but I just can't > get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's always > in some form_load it wants > to startup. > > Why? > > Adam > > show up as Main in the drop down. Chris In a module I did it like this:
Module Module1 Public Sub Main() End Sub End Module Similar in a form or class. Adam Show quoteHide quote "Chris" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:ezChkGPXGHA.2376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Adam Honek wrote: >> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >> figure it out. >> >> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >> under project properties. >> >> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I >> want the program to start in. >> >> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >> shared parameter) but I just can't >> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >> always in some form_load it wants >> to startup. >> >> Why? >> >> Adam > Show us the code you use to make the the module sub main. It should show > up as Main in the drop down. > > Chris In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application Framework. If
it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you uncheck it then Sub Main option appears in the list of startup objects. You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I described. Al Show quoteHide quote "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't > figure it out. > > In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy > under project properties. > > In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I > want the program to start in. > > I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the shared > parameter) but I just can't > get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's always > in some form_load it wants > to startup. > > Why? > > Adam > It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option.
Just loads the form and then exits the program. Public Sub Main() Dim NewInstance = New frmMain NewInstance.show() End Sub Show quoteHide quote "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application Framework. > If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you uncheck it then > Sub Main option appears in the list of startup objects. > You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I > described. > > Al > > "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message > news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >> figure it out. >> >> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >> under project properties. >> >> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I >> want the program to start in. >> >> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >> shared parameter) but I just can't >> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >> always in some form_load it wants >> to startup. >> >> Why? >> >> Adam >> > > Adam Honek wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. do ShowDialog not Show> > Just loads the form and then exits the program. > > Public Sub Main() > > Dim NewInstance = New frmMain > > NewInstance.show() > > End Sub > > > > "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message > news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application Framework. >>If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you uncheck it then >>Sub Main option appears in the list of startup objects. >>You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >>described. >> >>Al >> >>"Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >>news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >>>This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >>>figure it out. >>> >>>In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >>>under project properties. >>> >>>In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I >>>want the program to start in. >>> >>>I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>>shared parameter) but I just can't >>>get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>>always in some form_load it wants >>>to startup. >>> >>>Why? >>> >>>Adam >>> >> >> > > Chris Thanks, that made it startup without crashing.
Disabling the framework seems to take away functionality within the controls. For example the icons I used in the tree view control suddently get a black border thus look ugly. Turn on the framekwork and bingo they're nice again. I think it's to do with disabling Windows XP visual styles. Adam Show quoteHide quote "Chris" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:eoP9VqPXGHA.3440@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Adam Honek wrote: >> It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. >> >> Just loads the form and then exits the program. >> >> Public Sub Main() >> >> Dim NewInstance = New frmMain >> >> NewInstance.show() >> >> End Sub >> >> >> >> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >> news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >>>In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application Framework. >>>If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you uncheck it then >>>Sub Main option appears in the list of startup objects. >>>You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >>>described. >>> >>>Al >>> >>>"Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >>>news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>>>This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >>>>figure it out. >>>> >>>>In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >>>>under project properties. >>>> >>>>In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I >>>>want the program to start in. >>>> >>>>I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>>>shared parameter) but I just can't >>>>get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>>>always in some form_load it wants >>>>to startup. >>>> >>>>Why? >>>> >>>>Adam >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > do ShowDialog not Show > > Chris I have Sub Main in a module:
Sub Main() objConn = New SqlConnection 'objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELLNEW;Initial Catalog=SRSNew;User ID=administrator;Password=developer4242;" objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELL205;Initial Catalog=SRSNew;Integrated Security=True" objConn.Open() Application.Run(New MDIMain) End Sub I open SQL Connection and start MDI form. Everything works fine. You are trying to show the form, not to start the application. This is the reason why it doesn't work I think. Show quoteHide quote "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:OxRgXZPXGHA.1480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. > > Just loads the form and then exits the program. > > Public Sub Main() > > Dim NewInstance = New frmMain > > NewInstance.show() > > End Sub > > > > "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message > news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application Framework. >> If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you uncheck it then >> Sub Main option appears in the list of startup objects. >> You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >> described. >> >> Al >> >> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >>> figure it out. >>> >>> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >>> under project properties. >>> >>> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I >>> want the program to start in. >>> >>> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>> shared parameter) but I just can't >>> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>> always in some form_load it wants >>> to startup. >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> Adam >>> >> >> > > If I do what Chris stated and turn off the framework things go ugly in terms
of visuals. But I then can use Sub Main(). Is the it then true that MS stopped allowing Sub Main() even when the framework is turned off? Surely they can't mean to imply professional coding has the app starting in a form right under form_load or form_activate? Adam Show quoteHide quote "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message news:uK15h0PXGHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I have Sub Main in a module: > Sub Main() > > objConn = New SqlConnection > > 'objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELLNEW;Initial > Catalog=SRSNew;User ID=administrator;Password=developer4242;" > > objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELL205;Initial > Catalog=SRSNew;Integrated Security=True" > > objConn.Open() > > Application.Run(New MDIMain) > > End Sub > > I open SQL Connection and start MDI form. Everything works fine. > You are trying to show the form, not to start the application. This is the > reason why it doesn't work I think. > > "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message > news:OxRgXZPXGHA.1480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. >> >> Just loads the form and then exits the program. >> >> Public Sub Main() >> >> Dim NewInstance = New frmMain >> >> NewInstance.show() >> >> End Sub >> >> >> >> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >> news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application Framework. >>> If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you uncheck it then >>> Sub Main option appears in the list of startup objects. >>> You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >>> described. >>> >>> Al >>> >>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >>>> figure it out. >>>> >>>> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >>>> under project properties. >>>> >>>> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I >>>> want the program to start in. >>>> >>>> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>>> shared parameter) but I just can't >>>> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>>> always in some form_load it wants >>>> to startup. >>>> >>>> Why? >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Adam,
I have a very long experience with VB6, with VB2005 I'm just starting. I did already several nice looking forms with Infragistics and did not notice any visual problem. I cannot be sure that turning on or off Enable Application Framework may affect visual stuff. Maybe it's related somehow, but as I said I do not see problems yet. I attached a couple of screen shots if you are interested to see the graphics (one with this message and another one with the next message - they are big for one message). These screens is just a beginning, so do not pay attention on labels and the same icons. It's too far from to be finished. Just to show that I have no prolem with graphics. Al Show quoteHide quote "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message [attached file: 3B.jpg]news:%23mnmT4PXGHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > If I do what Chris stated and turn off the framework things go ugly in > terms > of visuals. > > But I then can use Sub Main(). > > Is the it then true that MS stopped allowing Sub Main() even when the > framework is turned off? Surely they can't mean > to imply professional coding has the app starting in a form right under > form_load or form_activate? > > Adam > > "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message > news:uK15h0PXGHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>I have Sub Main in a module: >> Sub Main() >> >> objConn = New SqlConnection >> >> 'objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELLNEW;Initial >> Catalog=SRSNew;User ID=administrator;Password=developer4242;" >> >> objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELL205;Initial >> Catalog=SRSNew;Integrated Security=True" >> >> objConn.Open() >> >> Application.Run(New MDIMain) >> >> End Sub >> >> I open SQL Connection and start MDI form. Everything works fine. >> You are trying to show the form, not to start the application. This is >> the >> reason why it doesn't work I think. >> >> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:OxRgXZPXGHA.1480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. >>> >>> Just loads the form and then exits the program. >>> >>> Public Sub Main() >>> >>> Dim NewInstance = New frmMain >>> >>> NewInstance.show() >>> >>> End Sub >>> >>> >>> >>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application >>>> Framework. >>>> If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you uncheck it >>>> then >>>> Sub Main option appears in the list of startup objects. >>>> You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >>>> described. >>>> >>>> Al >>>> >>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >>>>> figure it out. >>>>> >>>>> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >>>>> under project properties. >>>>> >>>>> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form >>>>> I >>>>> want the program to start in. >>>>> >>>>> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>>>> shared parameter) but I just can't >>>>> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>>>> always in some form_load it wants >>>>> to startup. >>>>> >>>>> Why? >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Adam,
I have a very long experience with VB6, with VB2005 I'm just starting. I did already several nice looking forms with Infragistics and did not notice any visual problem. I cannot be sure that turning on or off Enable Application Framework may affect visual stuff. Maybe it's related somehow, but as I said I do not see problems yet. I tried to attached a couple of screen shots , but they are not accepted by the server (sizes 50 K and 90 K - to make them smaller to make them look worse). Al Show quoteHide quote "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23mnmT4PXGHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > If I do what Chris stated and turn off the framework things go ugly in > terms of visuals. > > But I then can use Sub Main(). > > Is the it then true that MS stopped allowing Sub Main() even when the > framework is turned off? Surely they can't mean > to imply professional coding has the app starting in a form right under > form_load or form_activate? > > Adam > > "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message > news:uK15h0PXGHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>I have Sub Main in a module: >> Sub Main() >> >> objConn = New SqlConnection >> >> 'objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELLNEW;Initial >> Catalog=SRSNew;User ID=administrator;Password=developer4242;" >> >> objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELL205;Initial >> Catalog=SRSNew;Integrated Security=True" >> >> objConn.Open() >> >> Application.Run(New MDIMain) >> >> End Sub >> >> I open SQL Connection and start MDI form. Everything works fine. >> You are trying to show the form, not to start the application. This is >> the reason why it doesn't work I think. >> >> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:OxRgXZPXGHA.1480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. >>> >>> Just loads the form and then exits the program. >>> >>> Public Sub Main() >>> >>> Dim NewInstance = New frmMain >>> >>> NewInstance.show() >>> >>> End Sub >>> >>> >>> >>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application >>>> Framework. If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you >>>> uncheck it then Sub Main option appears in the list of startup objects. >>>> You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >>>> described. >>>> >>>> Al >>>> >>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >>>>> figure it out. >>>>> >>>>> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >>>>> under project properties. >>>>> >>>>> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form >>>>> I want the program to start in. >>>>> >>>>> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>>>> shared parameter) but I just can't >>>>> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>>>> always in some form_load it wants >>>>> to startup. >>>>> >>>>> Why? >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Those are nice looking screens indeed.
In that case it must not affect all controls (the visuals going downhill) because on mine I have a menu strip and tree view amongst other graphical control and both suffered visual loss when turning off the framework. On one side .NET seems easier than VB6 but on the other there's many places to just ask ?????'s about even simple things. At least we can still use the Win32API if unsure and I'm sure it's faster than this freamework wrapper interpreted code anyway. Adam Show quoteHide quote "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message news:eXfkISQXGHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Adam, > I have a very long experience with VB6, with VB2005 I'm just starting. I > did > already several nice looking forms with Infragistics and did not notice > any > visual problem. > I cannot be sure that turning on or off Enable Application Framework may > affect visual stuff. Maybe it's related somehow, but as I said I do not > see > problems yet. > I tried to attached a couple of screen shots , but they are not accepted > by the server (sizes 50 K and 90 K - to make them smaller to make them > look worse). > > Al > > > "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message > news:%23mnmT4PXGHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> If I do what Chris stated and turn off the framework things go ugly in >> terms of visuals. >> >> But I then can use Sub Main(). >> >> Is the it then true that MS stopped allowing Sub Main() even when the >> framework is turned off? Surely they can't mean >> to imply professional coding has the app starting in a form right under >> form_load or form_activate? >> >> Adam >> >> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >> news:uK15h0PXGHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>I have Sub Main in a module: >>> Sub Main() >>> >>> objConn = New SqlConnection >>> >>> 'objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELLNEW;Initial >>> Catalog=SRSNew;User ID=administrator;Password=developer4242;" >>> >>> objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELL205;Initial >>> Catalog=SRSNew;Integrated Security=True" >>> >>> objConn.Open() >>> >>> Application.Run(New MDIMain) >>> >>> End Sub >>> >>> I open SQL Connection and start MDI form. Everything works fine. >>> You are trying to show the form, not to start the application. This is >>> the reason why it doesn't work I think. >>> >>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:OxRgXZPXGHA.1480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. >>>> >>>> Just loads the form and then exits the program. >>>> >>>> Public Sub Main() >>>> >>>> Dim NewInstance = New frmMain >>>> >>>> NewInstance.show() >>>> >>>> End Sub >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application >>>>> Framework. If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you >>>>> uncheck it then Sub Main option appears in the list of startup >>>>> objects. >>>>> You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >>>>> described. >>>>> >>>>> Al >>>>> >>>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in >>>>> message news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >>>>>> figure it out. >>>>>> >>>>>> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real >>>>>> easy under project properties. >>>>>> >>>>>> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form >>>>>> I want the program to start in. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>>>>> shared parameter) but I just can't >>>>>> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>>>>> always in some form_load it wants >>>>>> to startup. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why? >>>>>> >>>>>> Adam >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > I hate XP style myself and even did not try to run under XP desktop
settings. After your answer I tryed and saw that many controls changed their appearance, but they still look fine. Just different than they are under Classic settings. Now I need to check all controls, because my users tastes are not the same as mine, so they may use XP settings. So far I did not find any problem. Al Show quoteHide quote "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:OMt7RXQXGHA.1352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Those are nice looking screens indeed. > > In that case it must not affect all controls (the visuals going downhill) > because on mine I have a menu strip > and tree view amongst other graphical control and both suffered visual > loss when turning off the framework. > > On one side .NET seems easier than VB6 but on the other there's many > places to just ask ?????'s > about even simple things. > > At least we can still use the Win32API if unsure and I'm sure it's faster > than this freamework wrapper > interpreted code anyway. > > Adam > > > "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message > news:eXfkISQXGHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Adam, >> I have a very long experience with VB6, with VB2005 I'm just starting. I >> did >> already several nice looking forms with Infragistics and did not notice >> any >> visual problem. >> I cannot be sure that turning on or off Enable Application Framework may >> affect visual stuff. Maybe it's related somehow, but as I said I do not >> see >> problems yet. >> I tried to attached a couple of screen shots , but they are not accepted >> by the server (sizes 50 K and 90 K - to make them smaller to make them >> look worse). >> >> Al >> >> >> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:%23mnmT4PXGHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> If I do what Chris stated and turn off the framework things go ugly in >>> terms of visuals. >>> >>> But I then can use Sub Main(). >>> >>> Is the it then true that MS stopped allowing Sub Main() even when the >>> framework is turned off? Surely they can't mean >>> to imply professional coding has the app starting in a form right under >>> form_load or form_activate? >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>> news:uK15h0PXGHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>I have Sub Main in a module: >>>> Sub Main() >>>> >>>> objConn = New SqlConnection >>>> >>>> 'objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELLNEW;Initial >>>> Catalog=SRSNew;User ID=administrator;Password=developer4242;" >>>> >>>> objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELL205;Initial >>>> Catalog=SRSNew;Integrated Security=True" >>>> >>>> objConn.Open() >>>> >>>> Application.Run(New MDIMain) >>>> >>>> End Sub >>>> >>>> I open SQL Connection and start MDI form. Everything works fine. >>>> You are trying to show the form, not to start the application. This is >>>> the reason why it doesn't work I think. >>>> >>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:OxRgXZPXGHA.1480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. >>>>> >>>>> Just loads the form and then exits the program. >>>>> >>>>> Public Sub Main() >>>>> >>>>> Dim NewInstance = New frmMain >>>>> >>>>> NewInstance.show() >>>>> >>>>> End Sub >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application >>>>>> Framework. If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you >>>>>> uncheck it then Sub Main option appears in the list of startup >>>>>> objects. >>>>>> You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >>>>>> described. >>>>>> >>>>>> Al >>>>>> >>>>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>> message news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >>>>>>> figure it out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real >>>>>>> easy under project properties. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which >>>>>>> form I want the program to start in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>>>>>> shared parameter) but I just can't >>>>>>> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>>>>>> always in some form_load it wants >>>>>>> to startup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adam >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Adam,
I use MenuStrip too, but it looks the same under both settings. I couldn't mak a screen shot of it. I did a small image from another couple of controls - Tab and Grid. See attached. Al Show quoteHide quote "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message [attached file: 5.jpg]news:%23uzw7kQXGHA.2376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I hate XP style myself and even did not try to run under XP desktop > settings. After your answer I tryed and saw that many controls changed > their > appearance, but they still look fine. Just different than they are under > Classic settings. Now I need to check all controls, because my users > tastes > are not the same as mine, so they may use XP settings. So far I did not > find > any problem. > > Al > > "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message > news:OMt7RXQXGHA.1352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Those are nice looking screens indeed. >> >> In that case it must not affect all controls (the visuals going downhill) >> because on mine I have a menu strip >> and tree view amongst other graphical control and both suffered visual >> loss when turning off the framework. >> >> On one side .NET seems easier than VB6 but on the other there's many >> places to just ask ?????'s >> about even simple things. >> >> At least we can still use the Win32API if unsure and I'm sure it's faster >> than this freamework wrapper >> interpreted code anyway. >> >> Adam >> >> >> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >> news:eXfkISQXGHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Adam, >>> I have a very long experience with VB6, with VB2005 I'm just starting. I >>> did >>> already several nice looking forms with Infragistics and did not notice >>> any >>> visual problem. >>> I cannot be sure that turning on or off Enable Application Framework may >>> affect visual stuff. Maybe it's related somehow, but as I said I do not >>> see >>> problems yet. >>> I tried to attached a couple of screen shots , but they are not accepted >>> by the server (sizes 50 K and 90 K - to make them smaller to make them >>> look worse). >>> >>> Al >>> >>> >>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:%23mnmT4PXGHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> If I do what Chris stated and turn off the framework things go ugly in >>>> terms of visuals. >>>> >>>> But I then can use Sub Main(). >>>> >>>> Is the it then true that MS stopped allowing Sub Main() even when the >>>> framework is turned off? Surely they can't mean >>>> to imply professional coding has the app starting in a form right under >>>> form_load or form_activate? >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>>> news:uK15h0PXGHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>I have Sub Main in a module: >>>>> Sub Main() >>>>> >>>>> objConn = New SqlConnection >>>>> >>>>> 'objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELLNEW;Initial >>>>> Catalog=SRSNew;User ID=administrator;Password=developer4242;" >>>>> >>>>> objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELL205;Initial >>>>> Catalog=SRSNew;Integrated Security=True" >>>>> >>>>> objConn.Open() >>>>> >>>>> Application.Run(New MDIMain) >>>>> >>>>> End Sub >>>>> >>>>> I open SQL Connection and start MDI form. Everything works fine. >>>>> You are trying to show the form, not to start the application. This is >>>>> the reason why it doesn't work I think. >>>>> >>>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in >>>>> message >>>>> news:OxRgXZPXGHA.1480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just loads the form and then exits the program. >>>>>> >>>>>> Public Sub Main() >>>>>> >>>>>> Dim NewInstance = New frmMain >>>>>> >>>>>> NewInstance.show() >>>>>> >>>>>> End Sub >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application >>>>>>> Framework. If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you >>>>>>> uncheck it then Sub Main option appears in the list of startup >>>>>>> objects. >>>>>>> You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >>>>>>> described. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Al >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just >>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>> figure it out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real >>>>>>>> easy under project properties. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which >>>>>>>> form I want the program to start in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>>>>>>> shared parameter) but I just can't >>>>>>>> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>>>>>>> always in some form_load it wants >>>>>>>> to startup. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > I think it must be because the images you're using aren't 32bit hence you
can't tell the difference in quality. Even 24bit isn't 32bit quality because of the alpha 8 bit channel despite both being 16.7m colours. Adam Show quoteHide quote "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message news:OwzgRoQXGHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Adam, > I use MenuStrip too, but it looks the same under both settings. I couldn't > mak a screen shot of it. > I did a small image from another couple of controls - Tab and Grid. See > attached. > > Al > > "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message > news:%23uzw7kQXGHA.2376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>I hate XP style myself and even did not try to run under XP desktop >> settings. After your answer I tryed and saw that many controls changed >> their >> appearance, but they still look fine. Just different than they are under >> Classic settings. Now I need to check all controls, because my users >> tastes >> are not the same as mine, so they may use XP settings. So far I did not >> find >> any problem. >> >> Al >> >> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:OMt7RXQXGHA.1352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Those are nice looking screens indeed. >>> >>> In that case it must not affect all controls (the visuals going >>> downhill) >>> because on mine I have a menu strip >>> and tree view amongst other graphical control and both suffered visual >>> loss when turning off the framework. >>> >>> On one side .NET seems easier than VB6 but on the other there's many >>> places to just ask ?????'s >>> about even simple things. >>> >>> At least we can still use the Win32API if unsure and I'm sure it's >>> faster >>> than this freamework wrapper >>> interpreted code anyway. >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>> news:eXfkISQXGHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Adam, >>>> I have a very long experience with VB6, with VB2005 I'm just starting. >>>> I >>>> did >>>> already several nice looking forms with Infragistics and did not notice >>>> any >>>> visual problem. >>>> I cannot be sure that turning on or off Enable Application Framework >>>> may >>>> affect visual stuff. Maybe it's related somehow, but as I said I do not >>>> see >>>> problems yet. >>>> I tried to attached a couple of screen shots , but they are not >>>> accepted >>>> by the server (sizes 50 K and 90 K - to make them smaller to make them >>>> look worse). >>>> >>>> Al >>>> >>>> >>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:%23mnmT4PXGHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> If I do what Chris stated and turn off the framework things go ugly in >>>>> terms of visuals. >>>>> >>>>> But I then can use Sub Main(). >>>>> >>>>> Is the it then true that MS stopped allowing Sub Main() even when the >>>>> framework is turned off? Surely they can't mean >>>>> to imply professional coding has the app starting in a form right >>>>> under >>>>> form_load or form_activate? >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:uK15h0PXGHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>I have Sub Main in a module: >>>>>> Sub Main() >>>>>> >>>>>> objConn = New SqlConnection >>>>>> >>>>>> 'objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELLNEW;Initial >>>>>> Catalog=SRSNew;User ID=administrator;Password=developer4242;" >>>>>> >>>>>> objConn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=DELL205;Initial >>>>>> Catalog=SRSNew;Integrated Security=True" >>>>>> >>>>>> objConn.Open() >>>>>> >>>>>> Application.Run(New MDIMain) >>>>>> >>>>>> End Sub >>>>>> >>>>>> I open SQL Connection and start MDI form. Everything works fine. >>>>>> You are trying to show the form, not to start the application. This >>>>>> is >>>>>> the reason why it doesn't work I think. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>> message >>>>>> news:OxRgXZPXGHA.1480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just loads the form and then exits the program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Public Sub Main() >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dim NewInstance = New frmMain >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NewInstance.show() >>>>>>> >>>>>>> End Sub >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application >>>>>>>> Framework. If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you >>>>>>>> uncheck it then Sub Main option appears in the list of startup >>>>>>>> objects. >>>>>>>> You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >>>>>>>> described. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Al >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just >>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>> figure it out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real >>>>>>>>> easy under project properties. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which >>>>>>>>> form I want the program to start in. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> shared parameter) but I just can't >>>>>>>>> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. >>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>> always in some form_load it wants >>>>>>>>> to startup. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 01:27:27 +0100, "Adam Honek"
<AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >It doesn't like it when I turn off the framework option. If that's the only code in your Sub Main and frmMain is your startup> >Just loads the form and then exits the program. > >Public Sub Main() > >Dim NewInstance = New frmMain > >NewInstance.show() > >End Sub > > object, then there is no logical reason to use a SubMain. If there is other code, you might want to look at possibly using Sub MyApplication_Startup in the Application Designer> Gene Show quoteHide quote > >"Al" <a*@newsgroups.com> wrote in message >news:%23HvdZPPXGHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> In Project Properties there is a check box Enable Application Framework. >> If it's checked then there is no Sub main option. If you uncheck it then >> Sub Main option appears in the list of startup objects. >> You create Sub Main in a module and it works. At least I did what I >> described. >> >> Al >> >> "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >>> figure it out. >>> >>> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >>> under project properties. >>> >>> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I >>> want the program to start in. >>> >>> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >>> shared parameter) but I just can't >>> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >>> always in some form_load it wants >>> to startup. >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> Adam >>> >> >> > Adam,
One of the thousand messages Armin, Herfried and Jay have written about this in this newsgroup. It is an old message from Herfried but therefore probably very good in your case. http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb/msg/1f37ecbe95e32ad1 If you want to read more about it, than check for the by them often used word messagepump. I don't use it in form applications the inbuild is fine enough for me. I hope this helps, Cor Show quoteHide quote "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> schreef in bericht news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't > figure it out. > > In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy > under project properties. > > In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I > want the program to start in. > > I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the shared > parameter) but I just can't > get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's always > in some form_load it wants > to startup. > > Why? > > Adam > Hmmm, that's how I expect things to work, more how VB6 RIP worked. Thanks.
So why the framework? What exactly happens when it's disabled in the application settings? The .NET framework it used anyhow is it not? Maybe MS is trying to tell us there's no point in using Sub Main() anymore, it's fine to just use a startup forms _load or _activate event? Adam Show quoteHide quote "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> wrote in message news:OO3NPNTXGHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Adam, > > One of the thousand messages Armin, Herfried and Jay have written about > this in this newsgroup. > > It is an old message from Herfried but therefore probably very good in > your case. > > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb/msg/1f37ecbe95e32ad1 > > If you want to read more about it, than check for the by them often used > word messagepump. > > I don't use it in form applications the inbuild is fine enough for me. > > I hope this helps, > > Cor > > > "Adam Honek" <AdamHo***@Webmaster2001.freeserve.co.uk> schreef in bericht > news:%23DtJv1OXGHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> This is probably the most silly question asked here but I just can't >> figure it out. >> >> In VB6 letting Sub Main() be the app's startup directory was real easy >> under project properties. >> >> In VB.Net however I don't see such an option, all I see is which form I >> want the program to start in. >> >> I've added a Sub Main() into forms, modules, and classes (using the >> shared parameter) but I just can't >> get project properties to let me choose it as the startup sub. It's >> always in some form_load it wants >> to startup. >> >> Why? >> >> Adam >> > > 
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