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how to not use VB.netHi,
I have visual studio 2005 and i need to create a VB application. However, i do not want to use dotnet features because it will force me to delivery also the dotnet framework to each application user. how can i be sure that components i used in my application are not from dotnet package ? thanks a lot, Alain >> I have visual studio 2005 and i need to create a VB application. .... don't write it in VB.NET.Write it in VB6 instead. >> However, i do not want to use dotnet features They aren't "features"... they're a necessity in VB.NET applications.Any .NET app needs the CLR to run, which is part of the .NET Framework, which as you know, needs to be installed on the target machine. If you want to write an app that doesn't need the .NET framework, then learn VB6 or C++ or Cobol or Pascal or Fortran or PHP or C or ..... etc. Of course there will be people who contribute to the thread saying that its possible to pack the framework with your application (which it is), its not very viable for most developers. There is software around that can do it for you. But I think it costs over $10,000 from memory... Steven,
Right text but maybe next time to Add. > Which needs all there own version bounded runtime and probably some extra > If you want to write an app that doesn't need the .NET framework, then > learn VB6 or C++ or Cobol or Pascal or Fortran or PHP or C or ..... > etc. > DLL to distribute. Cor Alain Roger wrote:
> I have visual studio 2005 and i need to create a VB application. The only way to do this is to write "UnManaged" code in C++ (or, > However, i do not want to use dotnet features because it will force me > to delivery also the dotnet framework to each application user. /possibly/, C#). There is *no way* to avoid the Framework if you're using Visual Basic. Regards, Phill W. Phill,
C# requires the Framework also. I suspect you are thinking C#'s unsafe code. Unsafe code is still managed code. -- Show quoteHide quoteHope this helps Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook] ..NET Application Architect, Enthusiast, & Evangelist T.S. Bradley - http://www.tsbradley.net "Phill W." <p-.-a-.-w-a-r-d@o-p-e-n-.-a-c-.-u-k> wrote in message news:e3v8cq$5hl$1@yarrow.open.ac.uk... | Alain Roger wrote: | | > I have visual studio 2005 and i need to create a VB application. | > However, i do not want to use dotnet features because it will force me | > to delivery also the dotnet framework to each application user. | | The only way to do this is to write "UnManaged" code in C++ (or, | /possibly/, C#). There is *no way* to avoid the Framework if you're | using Visual Basic. | | Regards, | Phill W.
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"Phill W." <p-.-a-.-w-a-r-d@o-p-e-n-.-a-c-.-u-k> wrote in message But I use Visual Basic and there is no Framework. Visual Basic has been news:e3v8cq$5hl$1@yarrow.open.ac.uk... > Alain Roger wrote: > >> I have visual studio 2005 and i need to create a VB application. >> However, i do not want to use dotnet features because it will force me to >> delivery also the dotnet framework to each application user. > > The only way to do this is to write "UnManaged" code in C++ (or, > /possibly/, C#). There is *no way* to avoid the Framework if you're using > Visual Basic. > > Regards, > Phill W. around for years. I think you meant Visual Fred GalenS Galen Somerville wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Phill W." <p-.-a-.-w-a-r-d@o-p-e-n-.-a-c-.-u-k> wrote in message I was, indeed, referring to Visual B-blunt (now I've actually tried this > news:e3v8cq$5hl$1@yarrow.open.ac.uk... >> Alain Roger wrote: >> >>> I have visual studio 2005 and i need to create a VB application. >>> However, i do not want to use dotnet features because it will force me to >>> delivery also the dotnet framework to each application user. >> The only way to do this is to write "UnManaged" code in C++ (or, >> /possibly/, C#). There is *no way* to avoid the Framework if you're using >> Visual Basic. >> >> Regards, >> Phill W. > > But I use Visual Basic and there is no Framework. Visual Basic has been > around for years. I think you meant Visual Fred latest "offering", even "B#" isn't appropriate). However, you /cannot/ integrate VB "Proper" (that's v6 or earlier) with Visual Studio 2005 - they are totally disparate products. If you use the "Visual Basic" that comes with VS'2005, you will be writing Managed Code that requires the 20MB+ Framework. If you are writing in VB "Proper", you will be writing unmanaged code that only needs around 6MB of Run-Time libraries but which is considered Dean and Buried by Our Friends in Redmond. Regards, Phill W. VB.NET requires the .NET framework.
There is no way around that. If you don't want to require the .NET framework then you shouldn't be developing with the .NET framework. However, these days pretty much every language has some kind of library that must be distributed along with it... Show quoteHide quote "Alain Roger" <noemail@nospam.com> wrote in message news:OBK5GAMdGHA.3632@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > I have visual studio 2005 and i need to create a VB application. > However, i do not want to use dotnet features because it will force me to > delivery also the dotnet framework to each application user. > > how can i be sure that components i used in my application are not from > dotnet package ? > > thanks a lot, > > Alain You can't use VB without its runtime or .net toolkit
It uses it to draw windows, paint controls, communicate with the low-level stuff in windows etc. You would have to write this program in C or Assembler and make sure (if in C) it is UNMANAGED and there is only ONE code file Show quoteHide quote "Alain Roger" <noemail@nospam.com> wrote in message news:OBK5GAMdGHA.3632@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > I have visual studio 2005 and i need to create a VB application. > However, i do not want to use dotnet features because it will force me to > delivery also the dotnet framework to each application user. > > how can i be sure that components i used in my application are not from > dotnet package ? > > thanks a lot, > > Alain |
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