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why are there still COM controls in VS.Net 2005?I really thought they'd rewrite that buggy combo box when they released
2005. But no. I'm looking at the same piece of crap with a slightly different wrapper around it. Do they plan on getting rid of these COM control bases any time soon? Paul I think they are based on Win32 - actually I think the entirety of Windows
is based on Win32 and this is an ancient (relatively speaking) sub-system. Still, I'm not sure why they are neccessary in the .NET environment, simple as it is to produce user controls that do the same thing, but better. Perhaps they are being replaced over time? Who knows - maybe an MVP can answer.......................... Show quoteHide quote "PJ6" <no***@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:%23lsm28MgGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I really thought they'd rewrite that buggy combo box when they released >2005. But no. I'm looking at the same piece of crap with a slightly >different wrapper around it. Do they plan on getting rid of these COM >control bases any time soon? > > Paul > OK that begs another question - I wonder how tempted they are to rewrite all
of Windows using DotNet. Maybe it would take 10 years yusing the old tools, but VS.Net is so much better than what they had before. I hope someone high up at MS is making a case for a complete rewrite because we need some major housecleaning. Paul Show quoteHide quote "Robin Mark Tucker" <robintuckerhome@removehotmail.comremove> wrote in message news:e573r1$bog$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... >I think they are based on Win32 - actually I think the entirety of Windows >is based on Win32 and this is an ancient (relatively speaking) sub-system. >Still, I'm not sure why they are neccessary in the .NET environment, simple >as it is to produce user controls that do the same thing, but better. >Perhaps they are being replaced over time? > > Who knows - maybe an MVP can answer.......................... > > > > "PJ6" <no***@nowhere.net> wrote in message > news:%23lsm28MgGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I really thought they'd rewrite that buggy combo box when they released >>2005. But no. I'm looking at the same piece of crap with a slightly >>different wrapper around it. Do they plan on getting rid of these COM >>control bases any time soon? >> >> Paul >> > > Well I think that is a good long-term goal. It isn't viable in terms of
performance right now though as the recent Vista problems have demonstrated. Also consider Windows big strength: companies can invest millions in their code-bases and be reasonably sure future versions of the OS won't break them (too badly!). So I don't think you could get rid of Win32 post-vista without causing a lot of collateral damage ;). Show quoteHide quote "PJ6" <no***@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:%23AMZRRNgGHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > OK that begs another question - I wonder how tempted they are to rewrite > all of Windows using DotNet. Maybe it would take 10 years yusing the old > tools, but VS.Net is so much better than what they had before. I hope > someone high up at MS is making a case for a complete rewrite because we > need some major housecleaning. > > Paul > > "Robin Mark Tucker" <robintuckerhome@removehotmail.comremove> wrote in > message news:e573r1$bog$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... >>I think they are based on Win32 - actually I think the entirety of Windows >>is based on Win32 and this is an ancient (relatively speaking) sub-system. >>Still, I'm not sure why they are neccessary in the .NET environment, >>simple as it is to produce user controls that do the same thing, but >>better. Perhaps they are being replaced over time? >> >> Who knows - maybe an MVP can answer.......................... >> >> >> >> "PJ6" <no***@nowhere.net> wrote in message >> news:%23lsm28MgGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>I really thought they'd rewrite that buggy combo box when they released >>>2005. But no. I'm looking at the same piece of crap with a slightly >>>different wrapper around it. Do they plan on getting rid of these COM >>>control bases any time soon? >>> >>> Paul >>> >> >> > > "PJ6" <no***@nowhere.net> wrote in I'd be surprised if they go down that road, what with dotnet'snews:#AMZRRNgGHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: > OK that begs another question - I wonder how tempted they are to > rewrite all of Windows using DotNet. Maybe it would take 10 years > yusing the old tools, but VS.Net is so much better than what they had > before. I hope someone high up at MS is making a case for a complete > rewrite because we need some major housecleaning. > > Paul environment being based on a virtual machine - that obviously needs an operating environment to sit within... If I had to guess, I would have thought the foundations of the operating system will stay as they are, but we'll see more and more of the user interface etc becoming based around dotnet. As for a complete re-write, it's not going to happen. Microsoft will not be so keen to abandon their existing code base, not to mention user base - as any "complete rewrite" is not going to be compatible with existing software... Personally, I think the future is eventually going to lie in the whole virtual machine approach - we'll be developing for frameworks such as dotnet and Java, and will come to care less and less about what's actually running the show at the operating environment level... Martin. Not sure what combobox control you're refering to, but the standard
System.Windows.Forms.ComboBox is not COM based. It's a wrapper around the standard Win32 control. I agree that it suffers from a few problems though. /claes Show quoteHide quote "PJ6" <no***@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:%23lsm28MgGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I really thought they'd rewrite that buggy combo box when they released >2005. But no. I'm looking at the same piece of crap with a slightly >different wrapper around it. Do they plan on getting rid of these COM >control bases any time soon? > > Paul > 
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