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Author
4 Jun 2006 8:35 PM
ljh
(note: this is being posted to the dotnet groups because of thier expertise
in app development and network administration)

I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name of an application that I had
a couple of years ago.  It was an app that monitored the installation of
another application and created a setup package that could be run on another
PC to install the app almost like an Xcopy install.

The app monitored all added or changed files and registry entries.  It then
wrapped all changes into a single exe that made the same changes to another
PC.  The purpose of the app was to create unattended installs of
applications that normally required the user to answer multiple questions
during the course of a normal install.

The application was NOT Novell Zenworks.  It was much cheaper (around $99 I
think).

I need to automate the installation of applications that require user
interaction during thier normal installation process.  It would be nice if I
could track all changes made by an application by comparing the pc with a
baseline snapshot.  It would be even more helpful if I could use the
comparison to create the unattended installs that I need.

Does anyone know of such a product (that is NOT Novell's Zenworks)?

Thanks in advance!

Author
4 Jun 2006 10:53 PM
Michael C
"ljh" <Reply@groups.please> wrote in message
news:4uHgg.4223$ED2.1352@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name of an application that I
> had a couple of years ago.  It was an app that monitored the installation
> of another application and created a setup package that could be run on
> another PC to install the app almost like an Xcopy install.

Sounds like a recipe for disaster unless all the machines are identical.
Most apps have lots of "if" statements in the installer that do things
differently on different OSs and different hardware and also depending on
what's already installed. I'd be suprised if this worked very well.

Michael
Author
5 Jun 2006 12:48 AM
DL
Many installations only have an option to either default install or custom
install, so presumably you had something specific in mind?

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"ljh" <Reply@groups.please> wrote in message
news:4uHgg.4223$ED2.1352@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> (note: this is being posted to the dotnet groups because of thier
expertise
> in app development and network administration)
>
> I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name of an application that I
had
> a couple of years ago.  It was an app that monitored the installation of
> another application and created a setup package that could be run on
another
> PC to install the app almost like an Xcopy install.
>
> The app monitored all added or changed files and registry entries.  It
then
> wrapped all changes into a single exe that made the same changes to
another
> PC.  The purpose of the app was to create unattended installs of
> applications that normally required the user to answer multiple questions
> during the course of a normal install.
>
> The application was NOT Novell Zenworks.  It was much cheaper (around $99
I
> think).
>
> I need to automate the installation of applications that require user
> interaction during thier normal installation process.  It would be nice if
I
> could track all changes made by an application by comparing the pc with a
> baseline snapshot.  It would be even more helpful if I could use the
> comparison to create the unattended installs that I need.
>
> Does anyone know of such a product (that is NOT Novell's Zenworks)?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
Author
5 Jun 2006 1:04 AM
ljh
My concern was that the Developer edition of SQL Server that is installed
with Visual Studio Pro may be different than the edition installed by SQL
Server Express on the client PCs.

This would be a big problem and a huge waste of time if my db code did not
work with SQL Express because of some differences between SQL Express and
the Developer Edition.

I cannot find any comparisons between the Developer Edition installed as a
part of Visual Studio 2005 Pro and the freely avilable SQL Express editions.

Does anybody know if there are any differences that I should be aware of?




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"DL" <dl@spoofmail.nothere> wrote in message
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> Many installations only have an option to either default install or custom
> install, so presumably you had something specific in mind?
>
> "ljh" <Reply@groups.please> wrote in message
> news:4uHgg.4223$ED2.1352@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> (note: this is being posted to the dotnet groups because of thier
> expertise
>> in app development and network administration)
>>
>> I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name of an application that I
> had
>> a couple of years ago.  It was an app that monitored the installation of
>> another application and created a setup package that could be run on
> another
>> PC to install the app almost like an Xcopy install.
>>
>> The app monitored all added or changed files and registry entries.  It
> then
>> wrapped all changes into a single exe that made the same changes to
> another
>> PC.  The purpose of the app was to create unattended installs of
>> applications that normally required the user to answer multiple questions
>> during the course of a normal install.
>>
>> The application was NOT Novell Zenworks.  It was much cheaper (around $99
> I
>> think).
>>
>> I need to automate the installation of applications that require user
>> interaction during thier normal installation process.  It would be nice
>> if
> I
>> could track all changes made by an application by comparing the pc with a
>> baseline snapshot.  It would be even more helpful if I could use the
>> comparison to create the unattended installs that I need.
>>
>> Does anyone know of such a product (that is NOT Novell's Zenworks)?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>>
>
>
Author
5 Jun 2006 10:52 AM
chanmm
SQL server 2005 developer edition has all the features for SQL Server 2005
Enterprise. If you only code for Data Engine and not the Reporting Services,
Analysis Services. I didn't see the problem why your code won't run in SQL
Express.

chanmm

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"ljh" <Reply@groups.please> wrote in message
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> My concern was that the Developer edition of SQL Server that is installed
> with Visual Studio Pro may be different than the edition installed by SQL
> Server Express on the client PCs.
>
> This would be a big problem and a huge waste of time if my db code did not
> work with SQL Express because of some differences between SQL Express and
> the Developer Edition.
>
> I cannot find any comparisons between the Developer Edition installed as a
> part of Visual Studio 2005 Pro and the freely avilable SQL Express
> editions.
>
> Does anybody know if there are any differences that I should be aware of?
>
>
>
>
> "DL" <dl@spoofmail.nothere> wrote in message
> news:uzMnCnDiGHA.1612@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Many installations only have an option to either default install or
>> custom
>> install, so presumably you had something specific in mind?
>>
>> "ljh" <Reply@groups.please> wrote in message
>> news:4uHgg.4223$ED2.1352@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>> (note: this is being posted to the dotnet groups because of thier
>> expertise
>>> in app development and network administration)
>>>
>>> I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name of an application that I
>> had
>>> a couple of years ago.  It was an app that monitored the installation of
>>> another application and created a setup package that could be run on
>> another
>>> PC to install the app almost like an Xcopy install.
>>>
>>> The app monitored all added or changed files and registry entries.  It
>> then
>>> wrapped all changes into a single exe that made the same changes to
>> another
>>> PC.  The purpose of the app was to create unattended installs of
>>> applications that normally required the user to answer multiple
>>> questions
>>> during the course of a normal install.
>>>
>>> The application was NOT Novell Zenworks.  It was much cheaper (around
>>> $99
>> I
>>> think).
>>>
>>> I need to automate the installation of applications that require user
>>> interaction during thier normal installation process.  It would be nice
>>> if
>> I
>>> could track all changes made by an application by comparing the pc with
>>> a
>>> baseline snapshot.  It would be even more helpful if I could use the
>>> comparison to create the unattended installs that I need.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of such a product (that is NOT Novell's Zenworks)?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
7 Jun 2006 8:45 AM
ljh
So, no reporting services or Analysis services and it should be fine?  And,
if I need those, there is a free version of SQL Express that includes them
(its just a much larger download).

Thanks!


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"chanmm" <chan***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> SQL server 2005 developer edition has all the features for SQL Server 2005
> Enterprise. If you only code for Data Engine and not the Reporting
> Services, Analysis Services. I didn't see the problem why your code won't
> run in SQL Express.
>
> chanmm
>
> "ljh" <Reply@groups.please> wrote in message
> news:cqLgg.11905$EX2.2337@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> My concern was that the Developer edition of SQL Server that is installed
>> with Visual Studio Pro may be different than the edition installed by SQL
>> Server Express on the client PCs.
>>
>> This would be a big problem and a huge waste of time if my db code did
>> not work with SQL Express because of some differences between SQL Express
>> and the Developer Edition.
>>
>> I cannot find any comparisons between the Developer Edition installed as
>> a part of Visual Studio 2005 Pro and the freely avilable SQL Express
>> editions.
>>
>> Does anybody know if there are any differences that I should be aware of?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "DL" <dl@spoofmail.nothere> wrote in message
>> news:uzMnCnDiGHA.1612@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Many installations only have an option to either default install or
>>> custom
>>> install, so presumably you had something specific in mind?
>>>
>>> "ljh" <Reply@groups.please> wrote in message
>>> news:4uHgg.4223$ED2.1352@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>> (note: this is being posted to the dotnet groups because of thier
>>> expertise
>>>> in app development and network administration)
>>>>
>>>> I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name of an application that
>>>> I
>>> had
>>>> a couple of years ago.  It was an app that monitored the installation
>>>> of
>>>> another application and created a setup package that could be run on
>>> another
>>>> PC to install the app almost like an Xcopy install.
>>>>
>>>> The app monitored all added or changed files and registry entries.  It
>>> then
>>>> wrapped all changes into a single exe that made the same changes to
>>> another
>>>> PC.  The purpose of the app was to create unattended installs of
>>>> applications that normally required the user to answer multiple
>>>> questions
>>>> during the course of a normal install.
>>>>
>>>> The application was NOT Novell Zenworks.  It was much cheaper (around
>>>> $99
>>> I
>>>> think).
>>>>
>>>> I need to automate the installation of applications that require user
>>>> interaction during thier normal installation process.  It would be nice
>>>> if
>>> I
>>>> could track all changes made by an application by comparing the pc with
>>>> a
>>>> baseline snapshot.  It would be even more helpful if I could use the
>>>> comparison to create the unattended installs that I need.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of such a product (that is NOT Novell's Zenworks)?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
5 Jun 2006 1:47 AM
ljh
The name of the app was AppNstall (before that AppImager).

Unfortunately the product is no longer available.  The company
(AppDeploy.com) was purchased (by Phoenix Technologies) and the app was
discontinued.

Too bad.....  It was a beautiflu little application.  It did a before and
after snapshot comparison and created a setup package you could run on other
PCs to replicate the installation unattended.

Small, simple and quite effective.

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"ljh" <Reply@groups.please> wrote in message
news:4uHgg.4223$ED2.1352@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> (note: this is being posted to the dotnet groups because of thier
> expertise in app development and network administration)
>
> I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name of an application that I
> had a couple of years ago.  It was an app that monitored the installation
> of another application and created a setup package that could be run on
> another PC to install the app almost like an Xcopy install.
>
> The app monitored all added or changed files and registry entries.  It
> then wrapped all changes into a single exe that made the same changes to
> another PC.  The purpose of the app was to create unattended installs of
> applications that normally required the user to answer multiple questions
> during the course of a normal install.
>
> The application was NOT Novell Zenworks.  It was much cheaper (around $99
> I think).
>
> I need to automate the installation of applications that require user
> interaction during thier normal installation process.  It would be nice if
> I could track all changes made by an application by comparing the pc with
> a baseline snapshot.  It would be even more helpful if I could use the
> comparison to create the unattended installs that I need.
>
> Does anyone know of such a product (that is NOT Novell's Zenworks)?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>