How to easily create data-entry forms in vb.net

14 Jun 2006 1:55 AM

pw

I'm an experienced Access/VBA programmer, trying to become competent
using VB.net.

Using base vb.net it seems to me to be an AWFUL amount of work to
create data-entry forms similar to what one could create in Access in
20 minutes (eg. a form with datasheet/form-view options, filter fields,

etc., etc.).

Surely there is an easier way?! What do most 'real-life' programmers do

here? Is one of the commercial component suites the answer here?

Thanks,
Paul.

ps. please only constructive responses that address my issue. No need
to re-hash the pros/cons of vba vs. vb.net etc..

14 Jun 2006 4:54 AM

Doug Bell

Paul,
Sure you can easily build an Access Form in 20 Mins or less but I have at
times spent the best part of a day creating a very professional Access Form
to meet specific customer and data schema requirements.

VB.Net takes a considerably longer amount of time to develop a considerably
more professional and considerably more robust application.

Doug

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"pw" <p*@pwsystems.com> wrote in message
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> I'm an experienced Access/VBA programmer, trying to become competent
> using VB.net.
>
> Using base vb.net it seems to me to be an AWFUL amount of work to
> create data-entry forms similar to what one could create in Access in
> 20 minutes (eg. a form with datasheet/form-view options, filter fields,
>
> etc., etc.).
>
> Surely there is an easier way?! What do most 'real-life' programmers do
>
> here? Is one of the commercial component suites the answer here?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul.
>
> ps. please only constructive responses that address my issue. No need
> to re-hash the pros/cons of vba vs. vb.net etc..
>

14 Jun 2006 5:51 AM

Cor Ligthert [MVP]

Doug,

Your answer was not allowed by PW he was not interested in that.

>> ps. please only constructive responses that address my issue. No need
>> to re-hash the pros/cons of vba vs. vb.net etc..

He call that non constructive responses.

In the way he asks his question, he has already decided that VBA is better
but wants probably from us that we tell that as well.

Cor

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"Doug Bell" <vodaphoneSU***@starhub.com.au> schreef in bericht
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> Paul,
> Sure you can easily build an Access Form in 20 Mins or less but I have at
> times spent the best part of a day creating a very professional Access
> Form
> to meet specific customer and data schema requirements.
>
> VB.Net takes a considerably longer amount of time to develop a
> considerably
> more professional and considerably more robust application.
>
> Doug
>
> "pw" <p*@pwsystems.com> wrote in message
> news:1150250154.737452.277520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm an experienced Access/VBA programmer, trying to become competent
>> using VB.net.
>>
>> Using base vb.net it seems to me to be an AWFUL amount of work to
>> create data-entry forms similar to what one could create in Access in
>> 20 minutes (eg. a form with datasheet/form-view options, filter fields,
>>
>> etc., etc.).
>>
>> Surely there is an easier way?! What do most 'real-life' programmers do
>>
>> here? Is one of the commercial component suites the answer here?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul.
>>
>> ps. please only constructive responses that address my issue. No need
>> to re-hash the pros/cons of vba vs. vb.net etc..
>>
>
>

14 Jun 2006 5:53 AM

Cor Ligthert [MVP]

Doug,

In addition to my message.
PW forgets probably that Ms-Access is created as an enduser tool and VBNet
as a developer tool.

Cor

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"Doug Bell" <vodaphoneSU***@starhub.com.au> schreef in bericht
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> Paul,
> Sure you can easily build an Access Form in 20 Mins or less but I have at
> times spent the best part of a day creating a very professional Access
> Form
> to meet specific customer and data schema requirements.
>
> VB.Net takes a considerably longer amount of time to develop a
> considerably
> more professional and considerably more robust application.
>
> Doug
>
> "pw" <p*@pwsystems.com> wrote in message
> news:1150250154.737452.277520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm an experienced Access/VBA programmer, trying to become competent
>> using VB.net.
>>
>> Using base vb.net it seems to me to be an AWFUL amount of work to
>> create data-entry forms similar to what one could create in Access in
>> 20 minutes (eg. a form with datasheet/form-view options, filter fields,
>>
>> etc., etc.).
>>
>> Surely there is an easier way?! What do most 'real-life' programmers do
>>
>> here? Is one of the commercial component suites the answer here?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul.
>>
>> ps. please only constructive responses that address my issue. No need
>> to re-hash the pros/cons of vba vs. vb.net etc..
>>
>
>

14 Jun 2006 8:54 AM

Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schrieb:
> In addition to my message.
> PW forgets probably that Ms-Access is created as an enduser tool and VBNet
> as a developer tool.

Does this mean that the exact same task (designing a form) should be more
complicated in one of them than in the other one?

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/>

14 Jun 2006 9:13 AM

Cor Ligthert [MVP]

Herfried,

> Does this mean that the exact same task (designing a form) should be more
> complicated in one of them than in the other one?

Not the design, you know that it is very sophisticated in Net 2005, but all
things around it as binding it to the database is in my idea more
complicated in Net than in Office.

However comparing is almost impossible, if you see that new automatic by
using the datasource made let say extended DataGridView page which can has
all kind of relations and controls inside it, than you get the idea of a
kind of MS-Access designing. But it is not the same.

Just my thought,

Cor

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