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Author
4 Jul 2006 1:20 PM
Tim
hi,

I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser. It
must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com

Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
right direction? I am using VB.NET2005

Thanks

Tim

Author
4 Jul 2006 2:29 PM
M. Posseth
As far as i know there is not a good equivalant in .Net

regards

Michel Posseth [MCP]


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"Tim" wrote:

> hi,
>
> I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser. It
> must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
> microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
>
> Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
> right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
>
Author
4 Jul 2006 2:37 PM
Tim
yikes!

how can I get client machine access from within a web browser? there
must be a way?




M. Posseth wrote:
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> As far as i know there is not a good equivalant in .Net
>
> regards
>
> Michel Posseth [MCP]
>
>
> "Tim" wrote:
>
> > hi,
> >
> > I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser. It
> > must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
> > microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
> >
> > Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
> > right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
Author
4 Jul 2006 2:53 PM
Patrice
You can create a .NET control hosted in the browser. Of course you'll need
the .NET framework client side plus the user will have to grant rights to
your code (not sure if 2.0 will automatically ask the user, AFAIK in 1.1 you
have to supply a MSI file to install this policy ?)...

Else you are left with using a regular ActiveX control or a Java applet.

--
Patrice

"Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1152023848.497671.85***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
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> yikes!
>
> how can I get client machine access from within a web browser? there
> must be a way?
>
>
>
>
> M. Posseth wrote:
>> As far as i know there is not a good equivalant in .Net
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Michel Posseth [MCP]
>>
>>
>> "Tim" wrote:
>>
>> > hi,
>> >
>> > I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser. It
>> > must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
>> > microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
>> >
>> > Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
>> > right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> >
>
Author
4 Jul 2006 3:48 PM
Tim
ok, a .net control hosted in a browser.
does it have a technical name that I can search for?
any tips/links to get me going?

in the mean time I've played with creating the custom control but I'm
not sure how to get it onto the web page...

thanks


Patrice wrote:
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> You can create a .NET control hosted in the browser. Of course you'll need
> the .NET framework client side plus the user will have to grant rights to
> your code (not sure if 2.0 will automatically ask the user, AFAIK in 1.1 you
> have to supply a MSI file to install this policy ?)...
>
> Else you are left with using a regular ActiveX control or a Java applet.
>
> --
> Patrice
>
> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 1152023848.497671.85***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > yikes!
> >
> > how can I get client machine access from within a web browser? there
> > must be a way?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > M. Posseth wrote:
> >> As far as i know there is not a good equivalant in .Net
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >> Michel Posseth [MCP]
> >>
> >>
> >> "Tim" wrote:
> >>
> >> > hi,
> >> >
> >> > I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser. It
> >> > must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
> >> > microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
> >> >
> >> > Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
> >> > right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Tim
> >> >
> >> >
> >
Author
4 Jul 2006 3:55 PM
Cor Ligthert [MVP]
Tim

If you despite what the others have written will try it.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/02/06/rich/default.aspx

I hope this helps,

Cor

"Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:1152028099.031976.127310@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
ok, a .net control hosted in a browser.
does it have a technical name that I can search for?
any tips/links to get me going?

in the mean time I've played with creating the custom control but I'm
not sure how to get it onto the web page...

thanks


Patrice wrote:
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> You can create a .NET control hosted in the browser. Of course you'll need
> the .NET framework client side plus the user will have to grant rights to
> your code (not sure if 2.0 will automatically ask the user, AFAIK in 1.1
> you
> have to supply a MSI file to install this policy ?)...
>
> Else you are left with using a regular ActiveX control or a Java applet.
>
> --
> Patrice
>
> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 1152023848.497671.85***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > yikes!
> >
> > how can I get client machine access from within a web browser? there
> > must be a way?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > M. Posseth wrote:
> >> As far as i know there is not a good equivalant in .Net
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >> Michel Posseth [MCP]
> >>
> >>
> >> "Tim" wrote:
> >>
> >> > hi,
> >> >
> >> > I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser. It
> >> > must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
> >> > microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
> >> >
> >> > Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
> >> > right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Tim
> >> >
> >> >
> >
Author
4 Jul 2006 4:14 PM
Michel Posseth [MCP]
Cor ,,

The problem is the partially trust  thingy

with a Activex you can do anything as you can normally do with a local
installed application  ( access all local resources )

with .Net this is not possible  ,,  ever even tried to run a .Net app from
your local intranet zone ?? well hysteria times ten when it is the internet
:-)


regards

Michel Posseth [MCP]




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"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schreef in bericht
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> Tim
>
> If you despite what the others have written will try it.
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/02/06/rich/default.aspx
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Cor
>
> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> news:1152028099.031976.127310@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> ok, a .net control hosted in a browser.
> does it have a technical name that I can search for?
> any tips/links to get me going?
>
> in the mean time I've played with creating the custom control but I'm
> not sure how to get it onto the web page...
>
> thanks
>
>
> Patrice wrote:
>> You can create a .NET control hosted in the browser. Of course you'll
>> need
>> the .NET framework client side plus the user will have to grant rights to
>> your code (not sure if 2.0 will automatically ask the user, AFAIK in 1.1
>> you
>> have to supply a MSI file to install this policy ?)...
>>
>> Else you are left with using a regular ActiveX control or a Java applet.
>>
>> --
>> Patrice
>>
>> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> 1152023848.497671.85***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> > yikes!
>> >
>> > how can I get client machine access from within a web browser? there
>> > must be a way?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > M. Posseth wrote:
>> >> As far as i know there is not a good equivalant in .Net
>> >>
>> >> regards
>> >>
>> >> Michel Posseth [MCP]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Tim" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser. It
>> >> > must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
>> >> > microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
>> >> >
>> >> > Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
>> >> > right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > Tim
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>
>
Author
4 Jul 2006 4:54 PM
Cor Ligthert [MVP]
Michel,

Why you thougth I wrote this.

>If you despite what the others have written will try it.

That I disagree with Pat and you? No way I was glad that I had not to write
that long story I add always too this when I give that link.

:-)

Cor

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"Michel Posseth [MCP]" <M***@posseth.com> schreef in bericht
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> Cor ,,
>
> The problem is the partially trust  thingy
>
> with a Activex you can do anything as you can normally do with a local
> installed application  ( access all local resources )
>
> with .Net this is not possible  ,,  ever even tried to run a .Net app from
> your local intranet zone ?? well hysteria times ten when it is the
> internet :-)
>
>
> regards
>
> Michel Posseth [MCP]
>
>
>
>
> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schreef in bericht
> news:eQkqXI4nGHA.3320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Tim
>>
>> If you despite what the others have written will try it.
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/02/06/rich/default.aspx
>>
>> I hope this helps,
>>
>> Cor
>>
>> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:1152028099.031976.127310@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> ok, a .net control hosted in a browser.
>> does it have a technical name that I can search for?
>> any tips/links to get me going?
>>
>> in the mean time I've played with creating the custom control but I'm
>> not sure how to get it onto the web page...
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> Patrice wrote:
>>> You can create a .NET control hosted in the browser. Of course you'll
>>> need
>>> the .NET framework client side plus the user will have to grant rights
>>> to
>>> your code (not sure if 2.0 will automatically ask the user, AFAIK in 1.1
>>> you
>>> have to supply a MSI file to install this policy ?)...
>>>
>>> Else you are left with using a regular ActiveX control or a Java applet.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Patrice
>>>
>>> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>>> 1152023848.497671.85***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>> > yikes!
>>> >
>>> > how can I get client machine access from within a web browser? there
>>> > must be a way?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > M. Posseth wrote:
>>> >> As far as i know there is not a good equivalant in .Net
>>> >>
>>> >> regards
>>> >>
>>> >> Michel Posseth [MCP]
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Tim" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > hi,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser.
>>> >> > It
>>> >> > must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
>>> >> > microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
>>> >> > right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Tim
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Author
5 Jul 2006 8:21 AM
Tim
let me tell you exactly what I want to achieve, it might bring out some
other ideas....

I want to write tools for network techies. I don't really want them to
have to install anthing on client machines. I thought that a activex
control in a browser might be a good way to access software with
minimum fuss.

What would be fantastic would be if a program could be run with no
install required what so ever, so you can point to an exe via a url or
on a local cd and just run it. I don't even have to stick to dotnet2 I
could always change to something more appropriate, it's just that I
already written a load of code.

(I know XP comes with dotnet1 and an exe should just run, but I've only
got dotnet2 (vb2005) so my exe will need a huge install of the new
dotnet2 framework!)

TIA for any further advice...

Tim


Cor Ligthert [MVP] wrote:
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> Michel,
>
> Why you thougth I wrote this.
>
> >If you despite what the others have written will try it.
>
> That I disagree with Pat and you? No way I was glad that I had not to write
> that long story I add always too this when I give that link.
>
> :-)
>
> Cor
>
> "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <M***@posseth.com> schreef in bericht
> news:urB4sT4nGHA.4124@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Cor ,,
> >
> > The problem is the partially trust  thingy
> >
> > with a Activex you can do anything as you can normally do with a local
> > installed application  ( access all local resources )
> >
> > with .Net this is not possible  ,,  ever even tried to run a .Net app from
> > your local intranet zone ?? well hysteria times ten when it is the
> > internet :-)
> >
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Michel Posseth [MCP]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schreef in bericht
> > news:eQkqXI4nGHA.3320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> If you despite what the others have written will try it.
> >>
> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/02/06/rich/default.aspx
> >>
> >> I hope this helps,
> >>
> >> Cor
> >>
> >> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> >> news:1152028099.031976.127310@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> >> ok, a .net control hosted in a browser.
> >> does it have a technical name that I can search for?
> >> any tips/links to get me going?
> >>
> >> in the mean time I've played with creating the custom control but I'm
> >> not sure how to get it onto the web page...
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> Patrice wrote:
> >>> You can create a .NET control hosted in the browser. Of course you'll
> >>> need
> >>> the .NET framework client side plus the user will have to grant rights
> >>> to
> >>> your code (not sure if 2.0 will automatically ask the user, AFAIK in 1.1
> >>> you
> >>> have to supply a MSI file to install this policy ?)...
> >>>
> >>> Else you are left with using a regular ActiveX control or a Java applet.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Patrice
> >>>
> >>> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >>> 1152023848.497671.85***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >>> > yikes!
> >>> >
> >>> > how can I get client machine access from within a web browser? there
> >>> > must be a way?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > M. Posseth wrote:
> >>> >> As far as i know there is not a good equivalant in .Net
> >>> >>
> >>> >> regards
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Michel Posseth [MCP]
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Tim" wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > hi,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser.
> >>> >> > It
> >>> >> > must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
> >>> >> > microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
> >>> >> > right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Thanks
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Tim
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Author
5 Jul 2006 10:24 AM
M. Posseth
Well on a cd you do not have anny problems

you can verry easy write a program that starts as soon as the cd-rom is put
in the drive
( just create a autorun.inf   file ) 

from that moment you can install and do anything you want on the system and
have full resource access.

The problem is Intranet and Internet , as we have now all sorts of
restriction policy`s in .Net a program deployed through a network or
webbrowser has not full access    these programs must be explicitly granted
rights by the system administrator

Another thingy you might investigate is if your company has a SMS server (
Systems management server )

http://www.microsoft.com/smserver/default.mspx


with this , you can push installation packages to the clients ( MSI files,
wich you can create with Visual studio )


HTH

Michel Posseth [MCP]


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"Tim" wrote:

> let me tell you exactly what I want to achieve, it might bring out some
> other ideas....
>
> I want to write tools for network techies. I don't really want them to
> have to install anthing on client machines. I thought that a activex
> control in a browser might be a good way to access software with
> minimum fuss.
>
> What would be fantastic would be if a program could be run with no
> install required what so ever, so you can point to an exe via a url or
> on a local cd and just run it. I don't even have to stick to dotnet2 I
> could always change to something more appropriate, it's just that I
> already written a load of code.
>
> (I know XP comes with dotnet1 and an exe should just run, but I've only
> got dotnet2 (vb2005) so my exe will need a huge install of the new
> dotnet2 framework!)
>
> TIA for any further advice...
>
> Tim
>
>
> Cor Ligthert [MVP] wrote:
> > Michel,
> >
> > Why you thougth I wrote this.
> >
> > >If you despite what the others have written will try it.
> >
> > That I disagree with Pat and you? No way I was glad that I had not to write
> > that long story I add always too this when I give that link.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Cor
> >
> > "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <M***@posseth.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:urB4sT4nGHA.4124@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > > Cor ,,
> > >
> > > The problem is the partially trust  thingy
> > >
> > > with a Activex you can do anything as you can normally do with a local
> > > installed application  ( access all local resources )
> > >
> > > with .Net this is not possible  ,,  ever even tried to run a .Net app from
> > > your local intranet zone ?? well hysteria times ten when it is the
> > > internet :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Michel Posseth [MCP]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schreef in bericht
> > > news:eQkqXI4nGHA.3320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > >> Tim
> > >>
> > >> If you despite what the others have written will try it.
> > >>
> > >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/02/06/rich/default.aspx
> > >>
> > >> I hope this helps,
> > >>
> > >> Cor
> > >>
> > >> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> > >> news:1152028099.031976.127310@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > >> ok, a .net control hosted in a browser.
> > >> does it have a technical name that I can search for?
> > >> any tips/links to get me going?
> > >>
> > >> in the mean time I've played with creating the custom control but I'm
> > >> not sure how to get it onto the web page...
> > >>
> > >> thanks
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Patrice wrote:
> > >>> You can create a .NET control hosted in the browser. Of course you'll
> > >>> need
> > >>> the .NET framework client side plus the user will have to grant rights
> > >>> to
> > >>> your code (not sure if 2.0 will automatically ask the user, AFAIK in 1.1
> > >>> you
> > >>> have to supply a MSI file to install this policy ?)...
> > >>>
> > >>> Else you are left with using a regular ActiveX control or a Java applet.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Patrice
> > >>>
> > >>> "Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > >>> 1152023848.497671.85***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > >>> > yikes!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > how can I get client machine access from within a web browser? there
> > >>> > must be a way?
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > M. Posseth wrote:
> > >>> >> As far as i know there is not a good equivalant in .Net
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> regards
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Michel Posseth [MCP]
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> "Tim" wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> > hi,
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser.
> > >>> >> > It
> > >>> >> > must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
> > >>> >> > microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
> > >>> >> > right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > Thanks
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > Tim
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
>
Author
4 Jul 2006 7:36 PM
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
"Tim" <Citizen10Be***@gmail.com> schrieb:
> I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser. It
> must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
> microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
>
> Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
> right direction? I am using VB.NET2005

In addition to writing a browser control you may want to check out ClickOnce
deployment.

--
M S   Herfried K. Wagner
M V P  <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B   <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/>
Author
26 Aug 2006 5:06 PM
Surf
I am looking for the same information. My application must initiate a client
executable...must be run on the client machine. I'm thinking ActiveX but
looking for a dotnet solution. Do not see response here. Have you found
anything since this post?


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"Tim" wrote:

> hi,
>
> I would like to create an application that runs in a web browser. It
> must have access to the client machine. I guess a bit like the
> microsoft update tool at windowsupdate.com
>
> Having never created anything like this, can anyone point me in the
> right direction? I am using VB.NET2005
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
>