"dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I have wrriten a small windows service application in visual studio
> .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
> These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file names.
> However any time the windows service tries to rename the file (using
> flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying access is
> denied.
>
> The files are on the network, so we though the local system account may
> not have access
> We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain admin, but
> still got the same error.
>
> The application runs fine as VB windows form
>
> Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
>
> Many Thanks
> Dermot French
>

> Windows services, by default, don't have access to the network.  In w2k and
> XP there is a network version of the system account you can use.
>
> Mike Ober.
>
> "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > I have wrriten a small windows service application in visual studio
> > .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
> > These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file names.
> > However any time the windows service tries to rename the file (using
> > flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying access is
> > denied.
> >
> > The files are on the network, so we though the local system account may
> > not have access
> > We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain admin, but
> > still got the same error.
> >
> > The application runs fine as VB windows form
> >
> > Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
> >
> > Many Thanks
> > Dermot French
> >

> Mike,
> I actually changed the account that starts it to a domain admin
> account.  It can see the files (which the local system could not) -
> however it cannot move the files (gets the access denied message)?
>
> The services is running on a win 2003 server machine.
> Any ideas
>
> Regards,
> Dermot
>
>
> Michael D. Ober wrote:
> > Windows services, by default, don't have access to the network.  In w2k and
> > XP there is a network version of the system account you can use.
> >
> > Mike Ober.
> >
> > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > I have wrriten a small windows service application in visual studio
> > > .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
> > > These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file names.
> > > However any time the windows service tries to rename the file (using
> > > flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying access is
> > > denied.
> > >
> > > The files are on the network, so we though the local system account may
> > > not have access
> > > We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain admin, but
> > > still got the same error.
> > >
> > > The application runs fine as VB windows form
> > >
> > > Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
> > >
> > > Many Thanks
> > > Dermot French
> > >

> hi dermot
>
> I think you are trying to get the files while they are still used by
> the tcp.
>
> You should allow some delay. When a file arrives do not assault it !
>
> Place a timer and make an attempt every half second. You will see
> some attempt will eventually succeed. Can place a limit to the number
> of
> attempts and log the possible unsuccesses.... let me know
>
> -tom
>
> dermot ha scritto:
>
> > Mike,
> > I actually changed the account that starts it to a domain admin
> > account.  It can see the files (which the local system could not) -
> > however it cannot move the files (gets the access denied message)?
> >
> > The services is running on a win 2003 server machine.
> > Any ideas
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dermot
> >
> >
> > Michael D. Ober wrote:
> > > Windows services, by default, don't have access to the network.  In w2k and
> > > XP there is a network version of the system account you can use.
> > >
> > > Mike Ober.
> > >
> > > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > I have wrriten a small windows service application in visual studio
> > > > .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
> > > > These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file names.
> > > > However any time the windows service tries to rename the file (using
> > > > flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying access is
> > > > denied.
> > > >
> > > > The files are on the network, so we though the local system account may
> > > > not have access
> > > > We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain admin, but
> > > > still got the same error.
> > > >
> > > > The application runs fine as VB windows form
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
> > > >
> > > > Many Thanks
> > > > Dermot French
> > > >

> That isn't the problem
> It uses a notify filter, for last write and then delays
>
> This works fine using exact same code from a Windows form application
> (just doesn't work when I change it to Windows Services Application).
>
> Regards,
> Dermot
>
> tommaso.gasta***@uniroma1.it wrote:
> > hi dermot
> >
> > I think you are trying to get the files while they are still used by
> > the tcp.
> >
> > You should allow some delay. When a file arrives do not assault it !
> >
> > Place a timer and make an attempt every half second. You will see
> > some attempt will eventually succeed. Can place a limit to the number
> > of
> > attempts and log the possible unsuccesses.... let me know
> >
> > -tom
> >
> > dermot ha scritto:
> >
> > > Mike,
> > > I actually changed the account that starts it to a domain admin
> > > account.  It can see the files (which the local system could not) -
> > > however it cannot move the files (gets the access denied message)?
> > >
> > > The services is running on a win 2003 server machine.
> > > Any ideas
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dermot
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael D. Ober wrote:
> > > > Windows services, by default, don't have access to the network.  In w2k and
> > > > XP there is a network version of the system account you can use.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Ober.
> > > >
> > > > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > I have wrriten a small windows service application in visual studio
> > > > > .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
> > > > > These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file names.
> > > > > However any time the windows service tries to rename the file (using
> > > > > flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying access is
> > > > > denied.
> > > > >
> > > > > The files are on the network, so we though the local system account may
> > > > > not have access
> > > > > We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain admin, but
> > > > > still got the same error.
> > > > >
> > > > > The application runs fine as VB windows form
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many Thanks
> > > > > Dermot French
> > > > >

> Watch out for using mapped drive letters.  These are done on a
> user-by-user basis when they log in.  Try using the full network path
> (like //corp_server/datadir/targetfile.txt) and see if that helps.
>
> Tom
>
>
> dermot wrote:
> > That isn't the problem
> > It uses a notify filter, for last write and then delays
> >
> > This works fine using exact same code from a Windows form application
> > (just doesn't work when I change it to Windows Services Application).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dermot
> >
> > tommaso.gasta***@uniroma1.it wrote:
> > > hi dermot
> > >
> > > I think you are trying to get the files while they are still used by
> > > the tcp.
> > >
> > > You should allow some delay. When a file arrives do not assault it !
> > >
> > > Place a timer and make an attempt every half second. You will see
> > > some attempt will eventually succeed. Can place a limit to the number
> > > of
> > > attempts and log the possible unsuccesses.... let me know
> > >
> > > -tom
> > >
> > > dermot ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > Mike,
> > > > I actually changed the account that starts it to a domain admin
> > > > account.  It can see the files (which the local system could not) -
> > > > however it cannot move the files (gets the access denied message)?
> > > >
> > > > The services is running on a win 2003 server machine.
> > > > Any ideas
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Dermot
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michael D. Ober wrote:
> > > > > Windows services, by default, don't have access to the network.  In w2k and
> > > > > XP there is a network version of the system account you can use.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Ober.
> > > > >
> > > > > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > I have wrriten a small windows service application in visual studio
> > > > > > .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
> > > > > > These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file names.
> > > > > > However any time the windows service tries to rename the file (using
> > > > > > flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying access is
> > > > > > denied.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The files are on the network, so we though the local system account may
> > > > > > not have access
> > > > > > We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain admin, but
> > > > > > still got the same error.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The application runs fine as VB windows form
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many Thanks
> > > > > > Dermot French
> > > > > >

"dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1153834300.863097.28130@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>I am using the full network path
> The windows service can see the original files, it just cannot rename
> them
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TDC wrote:
>> Watch out for using mapped drive letters.  These are done on a
>> user-by-user basis when they log in.  Try using the full network path
>> (like //corp_server/datadir/targetfile.txt) and see if that helps.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> dermot wrote:
>> > That isn't the problem
>> > It uses a notify filter, for last write and then delays
>> >
>> > This works fine using exact same code from a Windows form application
>> > (just doesn't work when I change it to Windows Services Application).
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Dermot
>> >
>> > tommaso.gasta***@uniroma1.it wrote:
>> > > hi dermot
>> > >
>> > > I think you are trying to get the files while they are still used by
>> > > the tcp.
>> > >
>> > > You should allow some delay. When a file arrives do not assault it !
>> > >
>> > > Place a timer and make an attempt every half second. You will see
>> > > some attempt will eventually succeed. Can place a limit to the number
>> > > of
>> > > attempts and log the possible unsuccesses.... let me know
>> > >
>> > > -tom
>> > >
>> > > dermot ha scritto:
>> > >
>> > > > Mike,
>> > > > I actually changed the account that starts it to a domain admin
>> > > > account.  It can see the files (which the local system could not) -
>> > > > however it cannot move the files (gets the access denied message)?
>> > > >
>> > > > The services is running on a win 2003 server machine.
>> > > > Any ideas
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > Dermot
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Michael D. Ober wrote:
>> > > > > Windows services, by default, don't have access to the network.
>> > > > > In w2k and
>> > > > > XP there is a network version of the system account you can use.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Mike Ober.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > > > > news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > > > > > I have wrriten a small windows service application in visual
>> > > > > > studio
>> > > > > > .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
>> > > > > > These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file
>> > > > > > names.
>> > > > > > However any time the windows service tries to rename the file
>> > > > > > (using
>> > > > > > flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying access
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > denied.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The files are on the network, so we though the local system
>> > > > > > account may
>> > > > > > not have access
>> > > > > > We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain
>> > > > > > admin, but
>> > > > > > still got the same error.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The application runs fine as VB windows form
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Many Thanks
>> > > > > > Dermot French
>> > > > > >
>

> Are you sure that the account has write access to the directory and files?
> Sounds like it only has read access.
>
>    /claes
>
>
> "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1153834300.863097.28130@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >I am using the full network path
> > The windows service can see the original files, it just cannot rename
> > them
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > TDC wrote:
> >> Watch out for using mapped drive letters.  These are done on a
> >> user-by-user basis when they log in.  Try using the full network path
> >> (like //corp_server/datadir/targetfile.txt) and see if that helps.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> dermot wrote:
> >> > That isn't the problem
> >> > It uses a notify filter, for last write and then delays
> >> >
> >> > This works fine using exact same code from a Windows form application
> >> > (just doesn't work when I change it to Windows Services Application).
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Dermot
> >> >
> >> > tommaso.gasta***@uniroma1.it wrote:
> >> > > hi dermot
> >> > >
> >> > > I think you are trying to get the files while they are still used by
> >> > > the tcp.
> >> > >
> >> > > You should allow some delay. When a file arrives do not assault it !
> >> > >
> >> > > Place a timer and make an attempt every half second. You will see
> >> > > some attempt will eventually succeed. Can place a limit to the number
> >> > > of
> >> > > attempts and log the possible unsuccesses.... let me know
> >> > >
> >> > > -tom
> >> > >
> >> > > dermot ha scritto:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Mike,
> >> > > > I actually changed the account that starts it to a domain admin
> >> > > > account.  It can see the files (which the local system could not) -
> >> > > > however it cannot move the files (gets the access denied message)?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The services is running on a win 2003 server machine.
> >> > > > Any ideas
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > > Dermot
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Michael D. Ober wrote:
> >> > > > > Windows services, by default, don't have access to the network.
> >> > > > > In w2k and
> >> > > > > XP there is a network version of the system account you can use.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Mike Ober.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> > > > > news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > > > > > I have wrriten a small windows service application in visual
> >> > > > > > studio
> >> > > > > > .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
> >> > > > > > These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file
> >> > > > > > names.
> >> > > > > > However any time the windows service tries to rename the file
> >> > > > > > (using
> >> > > > > > flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying access
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > denied.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The files are on the network, so we though the local system
> >> > > > > > account may
> >> > > > > > not have access
> >> > > > > > We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain
> >> > > > > > admin, but
> >> > > > > > still got the same error.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The application runs fine as VB windows form
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Many Thanks
> >> > > > > > Dermot French
> >> > > > > >
> >

"dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1153865186.288388.28850@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> It is a domain admin account, and has also been given all rights on the
> folder in question.
>
>
> Claes Bergefall wrote:
> > Are you sure that the account has write access to the directory and
files?
> > Sounds like it only has read access.
> >
> >    /claes
> >
> >
> > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:1153834300.863097.28130@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > >I am using the full network path
> > > The windows service can see the original files, it just cannot rename
> > > them
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > TDC wrote:
> > >> Watch out for using mapped drive letters.  These are done on a
> > >> user-by-user basis when they log in.  Try using the full network path
> > >> (like //corp_server/datadir/targetfile.txt) and see if that helps.
> > >>
> > >> Tom
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> dermot wrote:
> > >> > That isn't the problem
> > >> > It uses a notify filter, for last write and then delays
> > >> >
> > >> > This works fine using exact same code from a Windows form
application
> > >> > (just doesn't work when I change it to Windows Services
Application).
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> > Dermot
> > >> >
> > >> > tommaso.gasta***@uniroma1.it wrote:
> > >> > > hi dermot
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think you are trying to get the files while they are still used
by
> > >> > > the tcp.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > You should allow some delay. When a file arrives do not assault
it !
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Place a timer and make an attempt every half second. You will see
> > >> > > some attempt will eventually succeed. Can place a limit to the
number
> > >> > > of
> > >> > > attempts and log the possible unsuccesses.... let me know
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -tom
> > >> > >
> > >> > > dermot ha scritto:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Mike,
> > >> > > > I actually changed the account that starts it to a domain admin
> > >> > > > account.  It can see the files (which the local system could
not) -
> > >> > > > however it cannot move the files (gets the access denied
message)?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The services is running on a win 2003 server machine.
> > >> > > > Any ideas
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > Dermot
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Michael D. Ober wrote:
> > >> > > > > Windows services, by default, don't have access to the
network.
> > >> > > > > In w2k and
> > >> > > > > XP there is a network version of the system account you can
use.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Mike Ober.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> > >> > > > > news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >> > > > > > I have wrriten a small windows service application in
visual
> > >> > > > > > studio
> > >> > > > > > .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
> > >> > > > > > These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file
> > >> > > > > > names.
> > >> > > > > > However any time the windows service tries to rename the
file
> > >> > > > > > (using
> > >> > > > > > flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying
access
> > >> > > > > > is
> > >> > > > > > denied.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > The files are on the network, so we though the local system
> > >> > > > > > account may
> > >> > > > > > not have access
> > >> > > > > > We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain
> > >> > > > > > admin, but
> > >> > > > > > still got the same error.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > The application runs fine as VB windows form
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Many Thanks
> > >> > > > > > Dermot French
> > >> > > > > >
> > >
>
>

> Please verify both the share permissions and the NTFS permissions.  I had a
> similar problem and my share permissions were wrong.
>
> Mike Ober.
>
> "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1153865186.288388.28850@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > It is a domain admin account, and has also been given all rights on the
> > folder in question.
> >
> >
> > Claes Bergefall wrote:
> > > Are you sure that the account has write access to the directory and
> files?
> > > Sounds like it only has read access.
> > >
> > >    /claes
> > >
> > >
> > > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:1153834300.863097.28130@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > >I am using the full network path
> > > > The windows service can see the original files, it just cannot rename
> > > > them
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > TDC wrote:
> > > >> Watch out for using mapped drive letters.  These are done on a
> > > >> user-by-user basis when they log in.  Try using the full network path
> > > >> (like //corp_server/datadir/targetfile.txt) and see if that helps.
> > > >>
> > > >> Tom
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> dermot wrote:
> > > >> > That isn't the problem
> > > >> > It uses a notify filter, for last write and then delays
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This works fine using exact same code from a Windows form
> application
> > > >> > (just doesn't work when I change it to Windows Services
> Application).
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Regards,
> > > >> > Dermot
> > > >> >
> > > >> > tommaso.gasta***@uniroma1.it wrote:
> > > >> > > hi dermot
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I think you are trying to get the files while they are still used
> by
> > > >> > > the tcp.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > You should allow some delay. When a file arrives do not assault
> it !
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Place a timer and make an attempt every half second. You will see
> > > >> > > some attempt will eventually succeed. Can place a limit to the
> number
> > > >> > > of
> > > >> > > attempts and log the possible unsuccesses.... let me know
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > -tom
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > dermot ha scritto:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Mike,
> > > >> > > > I actually changed the account that starts it to a domain admin
> > > >> > > > account.  It can see the files (which the local system could
> not) -
> > > >> > > > however it cannot move the files (gets the access denied
> message)?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > The services is running on a win 2003 server machine.
> > > >> > > > Any ideas
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Regards,
> > > >> > > > Dermot
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Michael D. Ober wrote:
> > > >> > > > > Windows services, by default, don't have access to the
> network.
> > > >> > > > > In w2k and
> > > >> > > > > XP there is a network version of the system account you can
> use.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Mike Ober.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > "dermot" <dfre***@tommyfrench.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > >> > > > > news:1153778884.852703.162660@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> > > > > > I have wrriten a small windows service application in
> visual
> > > >> > > > > > studio
> > > >> > > > > > .net 2003 which listens for incoming FTP files.
> > > >> > > > > > These files would overwrite over time due to duplicate file
> > > >> > > > > > names.
> > > >> > > > > > However any time the windows service tries to rename the
> file
> > > >> > > > > > (using
> > > >> > > > > > flFile.move(source,destination)) it gets an error saying
> access
> > > >> > > > > > is
> > > >> > > > > > denied.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > The files are on the network, so we though the local system
> > > >> > > > > > account may
> > > >> > > > > > not have access
> > > >> > > > > > We tried changing the account the service uses to a domain
> > > >> > > > > > admin, but
> > > >> > > > > > still got the same error.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > The application runs fine as VB windows form
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Any ideas, why windows service cannot do the same.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Many Thanks
> > > >> > > > > > Dermot French
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >