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27 Jul 2006 1:32 PM

pierre.k

Hi, first of all, please forgive me if I am posting in a wrong forum.
I'm using Visual Studio .NET 2005 Pro and I am wondering if there
is a way to target win32 platform when compiling a VB project, so that
the application does not need .NET Platform installed on the target
machine (similar to VisualStudio 6). I do not need to use any of the
..NET features. I've been fiddling with the IDE and searching the docs
for a couple of hours to no success.

Thanks in advance
pierre.k

27 Jul 2006 1:38 PM

Dick Grier

Hi,

Not with VB. However, this is NOT different that Visual Studio 6 (and VB),
where you also had to install the VB runtime and other dependencies. C/C++
are a somewhat different story, if you limit yourself to unmanaged code.

--
Richard Grier, MVP
Hard & Software
Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, Fourth
Edition,
ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages, includes CD-ROM). July 2004, Revised March
2006.
See www.hardandsoftware.net for details and contact information.

27 Jul 2006 1:56 PM

pierre.k

Thanks for the response, that's what I thought myself :-( Unfortunately
in my case I cannot deploy the .net framework runtime to the target
machines.
The reason I am about VB is the ease with which it can implement a COM
server and sink COM events - something not that easy and
straightforward in C++.
This leads me to another question - can VS2005 and the old VS6 be
installed on a single system without conflicts?
I wonder why MS closed the doors for those writing in VB and not being
able to deploying the .net runtime...

Dick Grier wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Not with VB. However, this is NOT different that Visual Studio 6 (and VB),
> where you also had to install the VB runtime and other dependencies. C/C++
> are a somewhat different story, if you limit yourself to unmanaged code.
>
> --
> Richard Grier, MVP
> Hard & Software
> Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, Fourth
> Edition,
> ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages, includes CD-ROM). July 2004, Revised March
> 2006.
> See www.hardandsoftware.net for details and contact information.

27 Jul 2006 2:20 PM

tomb

Yes, you can have both on the same machine without conflict - I have had
that for years.

T

pierre.k wrote:

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>Thanks for the response, that's what I thought myself :-( Unfortunately
>in my case I cannot deploy the .net framework runtime to the target
>machines.
>The reason I am about VB is the ease with which it can implement a COM
>server and sink COM events - something not that easy and
>straightforward in C++.
>This leads me to another question - can VS2005 and the old VS6 be
>installed on a single system without conflicts?
>I wonder why MS closed the doors for those writing in VB and not being
>able to deploying the .net runtime...
>
>Dick Grier wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Not with VB. However, this is NOT different that Visual Studio 6 (and VB),
>>where you also had to install the VB runtime and other dependencies. C/C++
>>are a somewhat different story, if you limit yourself to unmanaged code.
>>
>>--
>>Richard Grier, MVP
>>Hard & Software
>>Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, Fourth
>>Edition,
>>ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages, includes CD-ROM). July 2004, Revised March
>>2006.
>>See www.hardandsoftware.net for details and contact information.
>>
>>
>
>
>

27 Jul 2006 3:04 PM

Phill W.

pierre.k wrote:

> Unfortunately in my case I cannot deploy the .net framework runtime
> to the target machines.

This might be a silly question, perhaps, but - why not?
If it's an installation permissions issue, then you'll have trouble
trying to deploy any COM-based solutions as well.

If your users are running Windows XP, they /probably/ have the 1.1
Framework already!

> The reason I am about VB is the ease with which it can implement a COM
> server and sink COM events - something not that easy and
> straightforward in C++.

Agreed.

> This leads me to another question - can VS2005 and the old VS6 be
> installed on a single system without conflicts?

Yes. '2005 will probably upgrade your version of MDAC /yet/ again, but
I've not encountered or heard of anything worse (at least not in terms
of "running" them side-by-side.

> I wonder why MS closed the doors for those writing in VB and not being
> able to deploying the .net runtime...

You never could write VB without installing some sort of Run-Time
library. The Framework is just a much, much bigger one that
additionally supports other languages as well. And, of course, you can
just download the Framework, can't you?

IMHO, until /very/ recently, Our Friends in Redmond seemed to believe
that everybody and their granny had a T3 connection direct to their PC's
so they could download anything and everything they wanted in seconds.
It just never occured to them that people might still use dial-up modems.

HTH,
Phill W.

27 Jul 2006 3:49 PM

Scott M.

>> I wonder why MS closed the doors for those writing in VB and not being
>> able to deploying the .net runtime...

Because that is probably a very, very, very small amount of people. As
pointed out, the .NET Framework has been part of the XP SP's and will be
standard on Windows Vista.

27 Jul 2006 8:39 PM

Dick Grier

Hi,

>>

This leads me to another question - can VS2005 and the old VS6 be
installed on a single system without conflicts?
<<

Yes (at least, I've seen no problems).

>>

I wonder why MS closed the doors for those writing in VB and not being
able to deploying the .net runtime...
<<

Take a look here: http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/articles/574618.aspx

Dick

--
Richard Grier, MVP
Hard & Software
Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, Fourth
Edition,
ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages, includes CD-ROM). July 2004, Revised March
2006.
See www.hardandsoftware.net for details and contact information.

27 Jul 2006 1:51 PM

Scott M.

If you are writing VB .NET, you'll need the .NET Framework on the target
machines. VS.NET does not compile VB 6.0 code.

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"pierre.k" <joudanejve***@seznam.cz> wrote in message
news:1154007126.119914.4630@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi, first of all, please forgive me if I am posting in a wrong forum.
> I'm using Visual Studio .NET 2005 Pro and I am wondering if there
> is a way to target win32 platform when compiling a VB project, so that
> the application does not need .NET Platform installed on the target
> machine (similar to VisualStudio 6). I do not need to use any of the
> .NET features. I've been fiddling with the IDE and searching the docs
> for a couple of hours to no success.
>
> Thanks in advance
> pierre.k
>