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VB6 --> VB 2005 upgrade ...IDE now VERY slow!!!

Author
4 Oct 2006 9:09 PM
holysmokes99
Yesterday I ran the Visual Basic Upgrade Wizard for a VB6 app. There
were many errors and warnings, more or less what I was expecting, so I
have been working through these. The problem is that the IDE is SO
PAINFULLY SLOW. When I create a new line or make any modifications to
the code and move to the next line, I have to wait 1-2 seconds before I
get the cursor back.On pressing carriage return, the CPU spikes up to
80%. Is there any way around this?! Is it because of all those errors
and warnings that it is trying to refresh? In my googling I found that
MS Knowledge Base article KB917452 and KB920805 more or less addressed
my issue, so I contacted MS and got the Hotfix. But that made no
difference. I have tried disabling statement completion, smart
indenting...no effect. The project really isn't even that big @ 40 or
so classes and modules. I have an average development system (2.8GHz,
1GB RAM, Win XP Pro). When I ran the machine in safemode, the IDE was
perfectly responsive. That may lead you to think that I am running a
bunch of crap in the background, but I am not.

>>sigh<<

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Marcus

Author
4 Oct 2006 10:29 PM
holysmokes99
I just ran the vb upgrade wizard from Visual Studio 2003 and it worked
fine, with a fully responsive IDE after the upgrade. Doesn't help me as
this project needs to be in .Net Framework 2.0.

Marcus


holysmokes99 wrote:
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> Yesterday I ran the Visual Basic Upgrade Wizard for a VB6 app. There
> were many errors and warnings, more or less what I was expecting, so I
> have been working through these. The problem is that the IDE is SO
> PAINFULLY SLOW. When I create a new line or make any modifications to
> the code and move to the next line, I have to wait 1-2 seconds before I
> get the cursor back.On pressing carriage return, the CPU spikes up to
> 80%. Is there any way around this?! Is it because of all those errors
> and warnings that it is trying to refresh? In my googling I found that
> MS Knowledge Base article KB917452 and KB920805 more or less addressed
> my issue, so I contacted MS and got the Hotfix. But that made no
> difference. I have tried disabling statement completion, smart
> indenting...no effect. The project really isn't even that big @ 40 or
> so classes and modules. I have an average development system (2.8GHz,
> 1GB RAM, Win XP Pro). When I ran the machine in safemode, the IDE was
> perfectly responsive. That may lead you to think that I am running a
> bunch of crap in the background, but I am not.
>
> >>sigh<<
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
Author
4 Oct 2006 11:04 PM
GhostInAK
Hello holysmokes99,

So now open the 03 project in 05.

-Boo

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> I just ran the vb upgrade wizard from Visual Studio 2003 and it worked
> fine, with a fully responsive IDE after the upgrade. Doesn't help me
> as this project needs to be in .Net Framework 2.0.
>
> Marcus
>
> holysmokes99 wrote:
>
>> Yesterday I ran the Visual Basic Upgrade Wizard for a VB6 app. There
>> were many errors and warnings, more or less what I was expecting, so
>> I have been working through these. The problem is that the IDE is SO
>> PAINFULLY SLOW. When I create a new line or make any modifications to
>> the code and move to the next line, I have to wait 1-2 seconds before
>> I get the cursor back.On pressing carriage return, the CPU spikes up
>> to 80%. Is there any way around this?! Is it because of all those
>> errors and warnings that it is trying to refresh? In my googling I
>> found that MS Knowledge Base article KB917452 and KB920805 more or
>> less addressed my issue, so I contacted MS and got the Hotfix. But
>> that made no difference. I have tried disabling statement completion,
>> smart indenting...no effect. The project really isn't even that big @
>> 40 or so classes and modules. I have an average development system
>> (2.8GHz, 1GB RAM, Win XP Pro). When I ran the machine in safemode,
>> the IDE was perfectly responsive. That may lead you to think that I
>> am running a bunch of crap in the background, but I am not.
>>
>>>> sigh<<
>>>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcus
Author
4 Oct 2006 11:40 PM
holysmokes99
Interesting suggestion. Unfortunately same problem.

M.


GhostInAK wrote:
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> Hello holysmokes99,
>
> So now open the 03 project in 05.
>
> -Boo
>
> > I just ran the vb upgrade wizard from Visual Studio 2003 and it worked
> > fine, with a fully responsive IDE after the upgrade. Doesn't help me
> > as this project needs to be in .Net Framework 2.0.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> > holysmokes99 wrote:
> >
> >> Yesterday I ran the Visual Basic Upgrade Wizard for a VB6 app. There
> >> were many errors and warnings, more or less what I was expecting, so
> >> I have been working through these. The problem is that the IDE is SO
> >> PAINFULLY SLOW. When I create a new line or make any modifications to
> >> the code and move to the next line, I have to wait 1-2 seconds before
> >> I get the cursor back.On pressing carriage return, the CPU spikes up
> >> to 80%. Is there any way around this?! Is it because of all those
> >> errors and warnings that it is trying to refresh? In my googling I
> >> found that MS Knowledge Base article KB917452 and KB920805 more or
> >> less addressed my issue, so I contacted MS and got the Hotfix. But
> >> that made no difference. I have tried disabling statement completion,
> >> smart indenting...no effect. The project really isn't even that big @
> >> 40 or so classes and modules. I have an average development system
> >> (2.8GHz, 1GB RAM, Win XP Pro). When I ran the machine in safemode,
> >> the IDE was perfectly responsive. That may lead you to think that I
> >> am running a bunch of crap in the background, but I am not.
> >>
> >>>> sigh<<
> >>>>
> >> Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Marcus
Author
5 Oct 2006 5:45 AM
GhostInAK
Hello holysmokes99,

You may try:
Disable "Tools\Options\Text Editor\General\Track changes".
from (http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=144370&SiteID=1&PageID=2)

You'd be well advised to try your own google search as well.  Start with
"VS 2005 slow or unresponsive".

-Boo

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> Interesting suggestion. Unfortunately same problem.
>
> M.
>
> GhostInAK wrote:
>
>> Hello holysmokes99,
>>
>> So now open the 03 project in 05.
>>
>> -Boo
>>
>>> I just ran the vb upgrade wizard from Visual Studio 2003 and it
>>> worked fine, with a fully responsive IDE after the upgrade. Doesn't
>>> help me as this project needs to be in .Net Framework 2.0.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>> holysmokes99 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday I ran the Visual Basic Upgrade Wizard for a VB6 app.
>>>> There were many errors and warnings, more or less what I was
>>>> expecting, so I have been working through these. The problem is
>>>> that the IDE is SO PAINFULLY SLOW. When I create a new line or make
>>>> any modifications to the code and move to the next line, I have to
>>>> wait 1-2 seconds before I get the cursor back.On pressing carriage
>>>> return, the CPU spikes up to 80%. Is there any way around this?! Is
>>>> it because of all those errors and warnings that it is trying to
>>>> refresh? In my googling I found that MS Knowledge Base article
>>>> KB917452 and KB920805 more or less addressed my issue, so I
>>>> contacted MS and got the Hotfix. But that made no difference. I
>>>> have tried disabling statement completion, smart indenting...no
>>>> effect. The project really isn't even that big @ 40 or so classes
>>>> and modules. I have an average development system (2.8GHz, 1GB RAM,
>>>> Win XP Pro). When I ran the machine in safemode, the IDE was
>>>> perfectly responsive. That may lead you to think that I am running
>>>> a bunch of crap in the background, but I am not.
>>>>
>>>>>> sigh<<
>>>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marcus
Author
5 Oct 2006 8:02 AM
mg
Marcus,
Approach it as a generic application problem.  If you don't know the
specific issue that is causing the problem, try some different things
to se if you can isolate the issue.  You said that if you convert via
VS2003, it's OK.  Look at what code is generated via the upgrade wizard
(or not and leaving you with an error).  General things you can try on
the PC:

-disable un-needed services and startup items (themes, terminal
services, wireless zero config, error reporting, fast user switching,
etc)

See list at http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/winxp_services/ for help
with specifics.

Check and disable via msconfig any startup items not needed.

I use a P4/1.8Ghz 1Gb ram PC and while not blinding fast is OK.  I
installed the free refactoring tool for VS and it slowed right to a
crawl.  Removed it and it's back to normal.  Have you tried converting
another VB6 project to see if you get the same results?  Remove,
reinstall ,NET 2.0?

In the end, the more data points you can gather, the easier it will be
to either isolate the problem or find a fix.

Good luck!



holysmokes99 wrote:
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> I just ran the vb upgrade wizard from Visual Studio 2003 and it worked
> fine, with a fully responsive IDE after the upgrade. Doesn't help me as
> this project needs to be in .Net Framework 2.0.
Author
4 Oct 2006 11:12 PM
Scott M.
> Any suggestions?

Beef up your pc specs? How does your system compare to the MS stated system
requirements for VS 2005?
Author
4 Oct 2006 11:44 PM
holysmokes99
My machine is a Dell Dimension 3100 with a 2.8 GHz processor, 1GB RAM,
lots of HD space. This should be plenty of juice to run VS2005.

M.


Scott M. wrote:
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> > Any suggestions?
>
> Beef up your pc specs? How does your system compare to the MS stated system
> requirements for VS 2005?
Author
5 Oct 2006 12:08 AM
Scott M.
What firewall are you running?  Have you tried running VS.NET with the
firewall turned off?  I know that Zone Alarm has issues with VS.NET.


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"holysmokes99" <holysmoke***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> My machine is a Dell Dimension 3100 with a 2.8 GHz processor, 1GB RAM,
> lots of HD space. This should be plenty of juice to run VS2005.
>
> M.
>
>
> Scott M. wrote:
>> > Any suggestions?
>>
>> Beef up your pc specs? How does your system compare to the MS stated
>> system
>> requirements for VS 2005?
>
Author
5 Oct 2006 1:30 PM
jeff
or VS.Net has issues with Zone Alarm ?

or VS.Net causes issue with Zone Alarm ?


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"Scott M." <s-mar@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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> What firewall are you running?  Have you tried running VS.NET with the
> firewall turned off?  I know that Zone Alarm has issues with VS.NET.
>
>
> "holysmokes99" <holysmoke***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1160005452.403007.107200@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> My machine is a Dell Dimension 3100 with a 2.8 GHz processor, 1GB RAM,
>> lots of HD space. This should be plenty of juice to run VS2005.
>>
>> M.
>>
>>
>> Scott M. wrote:
>>> > Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Beef up your pc specs? How does your system compare to the MS stated
>>> system
>>> requirements for VS 2005?
>>
>
>
Author
5 Oct 2006 8:36 PM
Scott M.
No, Zone Alarm has documented issues with VS.NET.  Last time I checked with
the folks at ZA, they had no fix and recommended using an earlier version of
ZA that didn't have the same problem.


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"jeff" <jhersey at allnorth dottt com> wrote in message
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>
> or VS.Net has issues with Zone Alarm ?
>
> or VS.Net causes issue with Zone Alarm ?
>
>
> "Scott M." <s-mar@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:eLhmbJB6GHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> What firewall are you running?  Have you tried running VS.NET with the
>> firewall turned off?  I know that Zone Alarm has issues with VS.NET.
>>
>>
>> "holysmokes99" <holysmoke***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1160005452.403007.107200@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> My machine is a Dell Dimension 3100 with a 2.8 GHz processor, 1GB RAM,
>>> lots of HD space. This should be plenty of juice to run VS2005.
>>>
>>> M.
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott M. wrote:
>>>> > Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Beef up your pc specs? How does your system compare to the MS stated
>>>> system
>>>> requirements for VS 2005?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
5 Oct 2006 4:05 PM
holysmokes99
I do not use a firewall on my machine as we are behind a corporate
firewall.

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On Oct 4, 5:08 pm, "Scott M." <s...@nospam.nospam> wrote:
> What firewall are you running?  Have you tried running VS.NET with the
> firewall turned off?  I know that Zone Alarm has issues with VS.NET.
>
> "holysmokes99" <holysmoke***@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1160005452.403007.107***@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > My machine is a Dell Dimension 3100 with a 2.8 GHz processor, 1GB RAM,
> > lots of HD space. This should be plenty of juice to run VS2005.
>
> > M.
>
> > Scott M. wrote:
> >> > Any suggestions?
>
> >> Beef up your pc specs? How does your system compare to the MS stated
> >> system
> >> requirements for VS 2005?
Author
5 Oct 2006 11:40 AM
C-Services Holland b.v.
Scott M. wrote:
>>Any suggestions?
>
>
> Beef up your pc specs? How does your system compare to the MS stated system
> requirements for VS 2005?
>
>
>

Requirements are a laugh:
--- quote ---
Requirements vary for different combinations of components within
Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2005 Professional Edition. To install Visual
Studio 2005 Professional Edition, we recommend:

Computer with a 600 mhz or faster processor

Visual Studio® 2005 Professional Edition can be installed on the
following operating systems:
Microsoft® Windows® 2000 with Service Pack 4,
Microsoft® Windows® XP with Service Pack 2
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional x64 Edition (WOW)
Microsoft® Windows Server™ 2003 with Service Pack 1
Microsoft® Windows Server™ 2003, x64 Editions (WOW)
Microsoft® Windows Server™ 2003 R2
Microsoft® Windows Server™ 2003 R2, x64 Editions (WOW)
Microsoft® Windows Vista™

192 MB of RAM or more

2 GB of available hard-disk space

DVD-ROM drive

1024x768 or higher-resolution display with 256 colors

Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device
--- end quote ---
source: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/products/sysreqs/default.aspx

600Mhz with 192MB RAM? Did they even try to do that on XP? So a PIII
700MHz with 256MB RAM would be sufficient. While it'll run I doubt it's
a joy to work with (speed wise)
--
Rinze van Huizen
C-Services Holland b.v
Author
4 Oct 2006 11:26 PM
David Anton
Your machine specs look perfectly reasonable.
Take a look at:
http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/content/content.aspx?ContentID=3311
Be aware that this is a beta hotfix, so you might want to wait until this is
wrapped up in a bona fide service pack.

The issues you are experiencing are well-known and is purely a problem with
the rushed "not-quite-ready-for-prime-time" VB 2005 release.
--
David Anton
www.tangiblesoftwaresolutions.com
Instant C#: VB to C# converter
Instant VB: C# to VB converter
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"holysmokes99" wrote:

> Yesterday I ran the Visual Basic Upgrade Wizard for a VB6 app. There
> were many errors and warnings, more or less what I was expecting, so I
> have been working through these. The problem is that the IDE is SO
> PAINFULLY SLOW. When I create a new line or make any modifications to
> the code and move to the next line, I have to wait 1-2 seconds before I
> get the cursor back.On pressing carriage return, the CPU spikes up to
> 80%. Is there any way around this?! Is it because of all those errors
> and warnings that it is trying to refresh? In my googling I found that
> MS Knowledge Base article KB917452 and KB920805 more or less addressed
> my issue, so I contacted MS and got the Hotfix. But that made no
> difference. I have tried disabling statement completion, smart
> indenting...no effect. The project really isn't even that big @ 40 or
> so classes and modules. I have an average development system (2.8GHz,
> 1GB RAM, Win XP Pro). When I ran the machine in safemode, the IDE was
> perfectly responsive. That may lead you to think that I am running a
> bunch of crap in the background, but I am not.
>
> >>sigh<<
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
>
>
Author
4 Oct 2006 11:47 PM
holysmokes99
Thanks, David. I will try to get hold of the SP beta. Makes me
nervous...

M.


David Anton wrote:
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> Your machine specs look perfectly reasonable.
> Take a look at:
> http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/content/content.aspx?ContentID=3311
> Be aware that this is a beta hotfix, so you might want to wait until this is
> wrapped up in a bona fide service pack.
>
> The issues you are experiencing are well-known and is purely a problem with
> the rushed "not-quite-ready-for-prime-time" VB 2005 release.
> --
> David Anton
> www.tangiblesoftwaresolutions.com
> Instant C#: VB to C# converter
> Instant VB: C# to VB converter
> Instant C++: C#/VB to C++ converter
> Instant Python: VB to Python converter
>
>
> "holysmokes99" wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I ran the Visual Basic Upgrade Wizard for a VB6 app. There
> > were many errors and warnings, more or less what I was expecting, so I
> > have been working through these. The problem is that the IDE is SO
> > PAINFULLY SLOW. When I create a new line or make any modifications to
> > the code and move to the next line, I have to wait 1-2 seconds before I
> > get the cursor back.On pressing carriage return, the CPU spikes up to
> > 80%. Is there any way around this?! Is it because of all those errors
> > and warnings that it is trying to refresh? In my googling I found that
> > MS Knowledge Base article KB917452 and KB920805 more or less addressed
> > my issue, so I contacted MS and got the Hotfix. But that made no
> > difference. I have tried disabling statement completion, smart
> > indenting...no effect. The project really isn't even that big @ 40 or
> > so classes and modules. I have an average development system (2.8GHz,
> > 1GB RAM, Win XP Pro). When I ran the machine in safemode, the IDE was
> > perfectly responsive. That may lead you to think that I am running a
> > bunch of crap in the background, but I am not.
> >
> > >>sigh<<
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marcus
> >
> >