code collapsing in vb.net 2005

8 Nov 2006 3:30 PM

SlowArrow

Here collapsing seems to work differently in vb.net 2005 from that I use to
see in vb.net 2003:

Using the collapsing in vb.net 2003 shows the whole interface of the
methods, subroutines, functions, etc, while in vb.net 2005 those parts after
the name (arguments, etc) are missing. Is there an option to show them as
well, or this is the only working method of the collapsing?

What amazed me that the collapsing in the vC.net 2005 shows the whole
interface as well.

I'm sorry about the stupid question :-)

16 Nov 2006 10:23 PM

SlowArrow

Hm... No answer... Interesting... Perhaps, you couldn't understand the
question, because of my bad English. So, I'll try to explain it a more
particularly:

I have a small piece of code in my Visual Studio 2005 Basic module, as
follows:

    Private Function IsExcelInteractive(ByRef oExcel As Object) As Boolean
        Do While True
            Try
                Dim blnTest As Boolean = oExcel.Application.Interactive
                Return False
            Catch e As Exception
                 < some bla-bla-bla in some strange (Hungarian) language;-) >
                 Application.DoEvents()
            End Try
        Loop
    End Function

If I collapse this function in some way, then the related code consists the
following line (in an awfull grey box):

    Private Function IsExcelInteractive ...

instead of :

    Private Function IsExcelInteractive(ByRef oExcel As Object) As Boolean ...

as it was in the editor of the VS.NET 2003, nicely.

My question is:

1. Is this by design in Visual Studio 2005 Basic ?
2. Or there is an option to set to show the whole interface of the
subroutines and
the functions somewhere, what I missed?

My note in my first question referred to my strange experience, that
collapsing and routine in Visual Studio 2005 C++ the source code editor works
as I expect it (i.e. it shows the subs/functions together with their
arguments, etc.)

Any help would be appreciated!

17 Nov 2006 3:16 AM

Michael D. Ober

It's a poor design decision on part of the IDE developers. If you put your
mouse over the collapsed code, you will get a tool tip that shows a lot
more.

Mike Ober.

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"SlowArrow" <SlowAr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E72DFB75-DF4F-4ABF-AABC-FC574A346866@microsoft.com...
> Hm... No answer... Interesting... Perhaps, you couldn't understand the
> question, because of my bad English. So, I'll try to explain it a more
> particularly:
>
> I have a small piece of code in my Visual Studio 2005 Basic module, as
> follows:
>
>     Private Function IsExcelInteractive(ByRef oExcel As Object) As Boolean
>         Do While True
>             Try
>                 Dim blnTest As Boolean = oExcel.Application.Interactive
>                 Return False
>             Catch e As Exception
>                  < some bla-bla-bla in some strange (Hungarian)
language;-) >
>                  Application.DoEvents()
>             End Try
>         Loop
>     End Function
>
> If I collapse this function in some way, then the related code consists
the
> following line (in an awfull grey box):
>
>     Private Function IsExcelInteractive ...
>
> instead of :
>
>     Private Function IsExcelInteractive(ByRef oExcel As Object) As Boolean
....
>
> as it was in the editor of the VS.NET 2003, nicely.
>
> My question is:
>
> 1. Is this by design in Visual Studio 2005 Basic ?
> 2. Or there is an option to set to show the whole interface of the
> subroutines and
> the functions somewhere, what I missed?
>
> My note in my first question referred to my strange experience, that
> collapsing and routine in Visual Studio 2005 C++ the source code editor
works
> as I expect it (i.e. it shows the subs/functions together with their
> arguments, etc.)
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>

17 Nov 2006 11:49 AM

SlowArrow

Thanks, Michael! It's good to know, that this is by design, and the error is
not in my toolcase... or in my watermelon ;-)

However, I am a bit surprised, that there were NO people expressing sorrow
about it. Do they like and prefer it, or just accept it?

But to solve the comfort of those blind people as me, I think it would be
nice to give options in the environment

1. to provide a selection facility between the short and the long form
2. to provide a modification facility of the actual (either short or long)
form among the Display items of the Visual studio - Environment - Fonts and
Colors, to change the color of the BOX around the text (or even not to show
it at all;-)

Still I would appreciate any comment, especially from the develeoper's side:)

17 Nov 2006 12:36 PM

rowe_newsgroups

> However, I am a bit surprised, that there were NO people expressing sorrow
> about it. Do they like and prefer it, or just accept it?

To be honest, having just the "short" version doesn't really bother me.
Basically the only time I need to see the complete signature of a
method is when I am using it in code (in which I can view the
signatures via intellisense) or when I'm just browsing through my code
(in which case I use the tooltips that Michael mentioned.). However, I
do agree that having the option to customize it would be a great
feature - after all not everyone prefers the same ide style.

Thanks,

Seth Rowe

SlowArrow wrote:
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> Thanks, Michael! It's good to know, that this is by design, and the error is
> not in my toolcase... or in my watermelon ;-)
>
> However, I am a bit surprised, that there were NO people expressing sorrow
> about it. Do they like and prefer it, or just accept it?
>
> But to solve the comfort of those blind people as me, I think it would be
> nice to give options in the environment
>
> 1. to provide a selection facility between the short and the long form
> 2. to provide a modification facility of the actual (either short or long)
> form among the Display items of the Visual studio - Environment - Fonts and
> Colors, to change the color of the BOX around the text (or even not to show
> it at all;-)
>
> Still I would appreciate any comment, especially from the develeoper's side:)

17 Nov 2006 2:19 PM

SlowArrow

Dear Seth, thanks for your comment :-)

> To be honest, having just the "short" version doesn't really bother me.

Perhaps, that is just an oldfashioned custom, which my brain (struggling in
the sweet juice of my melon;-) will overcome after a while. During coding a
routine I always see the whole interface. In collapsed state they seem to be
so nude, and my brain is looking for some more... More seriously, perhaps, I
will accustomed to the new fashion after a while... or if the developers of
the IDE don't help I will make an editor extension :-)

> after all not everyone prefers the same ide style

I think, still there can be circumstances, when showing the long version
would be very useful: to make an overview of all the definitions.