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Is VB.NET Stable??I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some
code. It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never finishes. Very time consuming and unproductive. I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important stuff. I don't work with crystal reports, but I have not experienced anything like
these. That's not to say that the IDE doesn't have some bugs, but they're not things that really get in the way of getting things done for me. 99% of the time everything is just fine. Show quoteHide quote "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the > program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've > lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never finishes. > Very time consuming and unproductive. > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important > stuff. > VB.NET is VERY stable. Code I write with .NET if typically an order of
magnitude more stable than C++ but that is probably because I have less opportunity to screw up with .NET. It's extremely helpful, especially the IDE. Now, I have had consistent crashes with the IDE and my main form, when editing one of the menus. I managed to fix it by twiddling around with the resource file for the form. Something got borked there at some point I think. With stability, there is the IDE, there is Crystal Reports and there is the CLR. I vote the latter to be top quality, the former I'm still undecided on. Show quoteHide quote "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the > program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've > lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never finishes. > Very time consuming and unproductive. > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important > stuff. > So you get consistent crashes and you call it very stable? I'd hate to see
what you call unstable. The forms designer problems alone are enough to doubt the stability of VS 2005. I like the features of VS 2005, and hopefully Microsoft will fix the problem of sometimes having to wait a minute or two when making a trivial code change in a large project (I was on one that was 80,000 lines of code and it was very frustrating). The performance on small projects is very acceptable though, although the designer issues and random forms corruptions are annoying. -- Show quoteHide quoteDavid Anton www.tangiblesoftwaresolutions.com Instant C#: VB to C# converter Instant VB: C# to VB converter Instant C++: C#/VB to C++ converter Instant Python: VB to Python converter "Robinson" wrote: > VB.NET is VERY stable. Code I write with .NET if typically an order of > magnitude more stable than C++ but that is probably because I have less > opportunity to screw up with .NET. It's extremely helpful, especially the > IDE. > > Now, I have had consistent crashes with the IDE and my main form, when > editing one of the menus. I managed to fix it by twiddling around with the > resource file for the form. Something got borked there at some point I > think. > > With stability, there is the IDE, there is Crystal Reports and there is the > CLR. I vote the latter to be top quality, the former I'm still undecided > on. > > > "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. > > > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the > > program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've > > lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never finishes. > > Very time consuming and unproductive. > > > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important > > stuff. > > > > > "David Anton" <DavidAn***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message If you re-read my post (it was written in English), I said the projects I news:07147A5E-DF26-4FD3-892B-3BC3195F238D@microsoft.com... > So you get consistent crashes and you call it very stable? I'd hate to > see > what you call unstable. The forms designer problems alone are enough to > doubt the stability of VS 2005. work on that run under the CLR are very stable but that I have had problems with the IDE. VS 2005 is especially sluggish on large projects. There now much more going
on behind the scenes on every single code change you make. The SP should fix it, but it's in beta right now, so you probably want to wait. -- Show quoteHide quoteDavid Anton www.tangiblesoftwaresolutions.com Instant C#: VB to C# converter Instant VB: C# to VB converter Instant C++: C#/VB to C++ converter Instant Python: VB to Python converter "Tony Van" wrote: > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some > code. > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal > Reports, the program stutters and sends a message off to > Microsoft. Sometimes I've lost code, other times the system > sets off on a build that never finishes. Very time consuming > and unproductive. > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about > losing important stuff. > > > Im my opinion, VB.Net 2005, no. I've had several situations where I was
doing forms development, made a simple change to the form and thereafter found I could no longer open the form in design view. I could access the code, but not the form layout. In one case it took me well over a week to recreate the form. Needless to say I was some p... off. This occured most frequently, I thought, when I made changes to the datasets being used by the form without removing the controls bound to the old data first. I consider Vs2005 to be no better than a beta product. In theory the features are fine. In practice its another story. The problem above has not happened lately and I keep my fingers crossed. The configuration file XML format has changed between 2003 and 2005, which is a pain, although I found that you can use the old appsettings - add key tags in 2005 as it was in 2005. You can not save your application change application scope settings, you can more easily change user scope settings. They 'improved' the control over the application by being able to easily add applicationsettings, but its difficut to debug the most important of all, the unhandledexception event. Nonetheless I use it for development because I don't want to be using a product that is near the end of its support lifecycle, hoping that the inevitable service packs will resolve the reliability problems. What I do like is the easier deployment if you write everything in managed code and getting away from dll hell. Also, if you use third party components, make sure to test every single one of them before you commit. I was using a third party telephony component with Vs2005 VB.NET that I ad been using for years in VB6 and found that one of the most important ones in VB net 2005 could not be added to a form and that the next release is not yet scheduled. So I'm up the proverbial creek without a paddle and learned not to assume that because the advertising said it was compatible, it ain't necessarely so. Unfortunately its buyer beware! Bob Show quoteHide quote "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the > program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've > lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never finishes. > Very time consuming and unproductive. > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important > stuff. > Just as I finished this I opened a project, and just changed some settings
in the app.config file appsettings section. VS2005 stopped responding immediately as I hit the save all button. I had o close the app with the task manager. Then when I reopened it, it stopped responding as soon as it loaded the app.config file and stayed stuck with Saving autorecovery information in the status bar. Yeah its reliable all right, reliably unreliable. Bob Show quoteHide quote "Robert Dufour" <bduf***@sgiims.com> wrote in message news:uVrmGulDHHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Im my opinion, VB.Net 2005, no. I've had several situations where I was > doing forms development, made a simple change to the form and thereafter > found I could no longer open the form in design view. I could access the > code, but not the form layout. In one case it took me well over a week to > recreate the form. Needless to say I was some p... off. This occured most > frequently, I thought, when I made changes to the datasets being used by > the form without removing the controls bound to the old data first. > I consider Vs2005 to be no better than a beta product. > In theory the features are fine. In practice its another story. The > problem above has not happened lately and I keep my fingers crossed. > The configuration file XML format has changed between 2003 and 2005, which > is a pain, although I found that you can use the old appsettings - add key > tags in 2005 as it was in 2005. You can not save your application change > application scope settings, you can more easily change user scope > settings. > They 'improved' the control over the application by being able to easily > add applicationsettings, but its difficut to debug the most important of > all, the unhandledexception event. > Nonetheless I use it for development because I don't want to be using a > product that is near the end of its support lifecycle, hoping that the > inevitable service packs will resolve the reliability problems. > What I do like is the easier deployment if you write everything in managed > code and getting away from dll hell. > Also, if you use third party components, make sure to test every single > one of them before you commit. I was using a third party telephony > component with Vs2005 VB.NET that I ad been using for years in VB6 and > found that one of the most important ones in VB net 2005 could not be > added to a form and that the next release is not yet scheduled. So I'm up > the proverbial creek without a paddle and learned not to assume that > because the advertising said it was compatible, it ain't necessarely so. > Unfortunately its buyer beware! > > Bob > > > "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. >> >> It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the >> program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've >> lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never >> finishes. Very time consuming and unproductive. >> >> I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important >> stuff. >> > > Visual Basic 2005 itself is quite stable. It's just a compiler, after all,
and compiler theory has been pretty stable for decades. And since compilers don't directly interact with the human element, writing them is a little easier than writing other programs. Visual Studio, on the other hand, does have some issues, as other posters have alluded to. I have had repeated problems with graphic resources that seemed to have no solution other than deleting and re-adding. Lock-ups do occur sometimes. But it's understandable. Visual Studio is a massively complex application. I wish the service packs would come out on a more regular basis, but even without them, there are workarounds for most of the issues that come up. If you want to keep up on the latest bugs, issues, and fixes, try this web site. http://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/default.aspx?SiteID=210 ----- Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005 Show quoteHide quote > Im my opinion, VB.Net 2005, no. I've had several situations where I was > doing forms development, made a simple change to the form and thereafter > found I could no longer open the form in design view. I could access the > code, but not the form layout. In one case it took me well over a week to > recreate the form. Needless to say I was some p... off. This occured most > frequently, I thought, when I made changes to the datasets being used by the > form without removing the controls bound to the old data first. > I consider Vs2005 to be no better than a beta product. > In theory the features are fine. In practice its another story. The problem > above has not happened lately and I keep my fingers crossed. > Bob > > "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. >> >> It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, >> the program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes >> I've lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never >> finishes. Very time consuming and unproductive. >> >> I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing >> important stuff. >> >>> But it's understandable. Visual Studio is a massively complex Passenger jets are massively complex. How would you feel if theirapplication. reliability had only 1% of Visual Studio's problems, and had to wait years for patches? Bob Lehmann Show quoteHide quote "Tim Patrick" <inva***@invalid.com.invalid> wrote in message news:e3b4697623d58c8dc35f4b860fa@newsgroups.comcast.net... > Visual Basic 2005 itself is quite stable. It's just a compiler, after all, > and compiler theory has been pretty stable for decades. And since compilers > don't directly interact with the human element, writing them is a little > easier than writing other programs. > > Visual Studio, on the other hand, does have some issues, as other posters > have alluded to. I have had repeated problems with graphic resources that > seemed to have no solution other than deleting and re-adding. Lock-ups do > occur sometimes. But it's understandable. Visual Studio is a massively complex > application. I wish the service packs would come out on a more regular basis, > but even without them, there are workarounds for most of the issues that > come up. If you want to keep up on the latest bugs, issues, and fixes, try > this web site. > > http://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/default.aspx?SiteID=210 > > ----- > Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com > Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005 > > > Im my opinion, VB.Net 2005, no. I've had several situations where I was > > doing forms development, made a simple change to the form and thereafter > > found I could no longer open the form in design view. I could access the > > code, but not the form layout. In one case it took me well over a week to > > recreate the form. Needless to say I was some p... off. This occured most > > frequently, I thought, when I made changes to the datasets being used by > the > > form without removing the controls bound to the old data first. > > I consider Vs2005 to be no better than a beta product. > > In theory the features are fine. In practice its another story. The problem > > above has not happened lately and I keep my fingers crossed. > > > Bob > > > > "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > >> I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. > >> > >> It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, > >> the program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes > >> I've lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never > >> finishes. Very time consuming and unproductive. > >> > >> I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing > >> important stuff. > >> > > Bob,
Depends, if that trouble is in the bomber area I would not have any problem. In my idea is nobody writting what part of Visual Studio is used, while it is in fact a toolbox with a lot of tools already in it. There is done if all tools have troubles. Just my thought reading this thread Cor Show quoteHide quote "Bob Lehmann" <nospam@dontbotherme.zzz> schreef in bericht news:%23iRcQMpDHHA.572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> But it's understandable. Visual Studio is a massively complex > application. > > Passenger jets are massively complex. How would you feel if their > reliability had only 1% of Visual Studio's problems, and had to wait years > for patches? > > Bob Lehmann > > "Tim Patrick" <inva***@invalid.com.invalid> wrote in message > news:e3b4697623d58c8dc35f4b860fa@newsgroups.comcast.net... >> Visual Basic 2005 itself is quite stable. It's just a compiler, after >> all, >> and compiler theory has been pretty stable for decades. And since > compilers >> don't directly interact with the human element, writing them is a little >> easier than writing other programs. >> >> Visual Studio, on the other hand, does have some issues, as other posters >> have alluded to. I have had repeated problems with graphic resources that >> seemed to have no solution other than deleting and re-adding. Lock-ups do >> occur sometimes. But it's understandable. Visual Studio is a massively > complex >> application. I wish the service packs would come out on a more regular > basis, >> but even without them, there are workarounds for most of the issues that >> come up. If you want to keep up on the latest bugs, issues, and fixes, >> try >> this web site. >> >> http://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/default.aspx?SiteID=210 >> >> ----- >> Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com >> Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005 >> >> > Im my opinion, VB.Net 2005, no. I've had several situations where I was >> > doing forms development, made a simple change to the form and >> > thereafter >> > found I could no longer open the form in design view. I could access >> > the >> > code, but not the form layout. In one case it took me well over a week > to >> > recreate the form. Needless to say I was some p... off. This occured > most >> > frequently, I thought, when I made changes to the datasets being used >> > by >> the >> > form without removing the controls bound to the old data first. >> > I consider Vs2005 to be no better than a beta product. >> > In theory the features are fine. In practice its another story. The > problem >> > above has not happened lately and I keep my fingers crossed. >> >> > Bob >> > >> > "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message >> > news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > >> >> I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. >> >> >> >> It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, >> >> the program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes >> >> I've lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never >> >> finishes. Very time consuming and unproductive. >> >> >> >> I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing >> >> important stuff. >> >> >> >> > > Text change
>There is done if all tools have troubles. In my idea most persons are writting if all parts of Visual Studio have troubles Cor Show quoteHide quote "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schreef in bericht news:eh4WcVsDHHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Bob, > > Depends, if that trouble is in the bomber area I would not have any > problem. > > In my idea is nobody writting what part of Visual Studio is used, while it > is in fact a toolbox with a lot of tools already in it. > > There is done if all tools have troubles. > > Just my thought reading this thread > > Cor > > "Bob Lehmann" <nospam@dontbotherme.zzz> schreef in bericht > news:%23iRcQMpDHHA.572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> But it's understandable. Visual Studio is a massively complex >> application. >> >> Passenger jets are massively complex. How would you feel if their >> reliability had only 1% of Visual Studio's problems, and had to wait >> years >> for patches? >> >> Bob Lehmann >> >> "Tim Patrick" <inva***@invalid.com.invalid> wrote in message >> news:e3b4697623d58c8dc35f4b860fa@newsgroups.comcast.net... >>> Visual Basic 2005 itself is quite stable. It's just a compiler, after >>> all, >>> and compiler theory has been pretty stable for decades. And since >> compilers >>> don't directly interact with the human element, writing them is a little >>> easier than writing other programs. >>> >>> Visual Studio, on the other hand, does have some issues, as other >>> posters >>> have alluded to. I have had repeated problems with graphic resources >>> that >>> seemed to have no solution other than deleting and re-adding. Lock-ups >>> do >>> occur sometimes. But it's understandable. Visual Studio is a massively >> complex >>> application. I wish the service packs would come out on a more regular >> basis, >>> but even without them, there are workarounds for most of the issues that >>> come up. If you want to keep up on the latest bugs, issues, and fixes, >>> try >>> this web site. >>> >>> http://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/default.aspx?SiteID=210 >>> >>> ----- >>> Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com >>> Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005 >>> >>> > Im my opinion, VB.Net 2005, no. I've had several situations where I >>> > was >>> > doing forms development, made a simple change to the form and >>> > thereafter >>> > found I could no longer open the form in design view. I could access >>> > the >>> > code, but not the form layout. In one case it took me well over a week >> to >>> > recreate the form. Needless to say I was some p... off. This occured >> most >>> > frequently, I thought, when I made changes to the datasets being used >>> > by >>> the >>> > form without removing the controls bound to the old data first. >>> > I consider Vs2005 to be no better than a beta product. >>> > In theory the features are fine. In practice its another story. The >> problem >>> > above has not happened lately and I keep my fingers crossed. >>> >>> > Bob >>> > >>> > "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message >>> > news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> > >>> >> I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. >>> >> >>> >> It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, >>> >> the program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes >>> >> I've lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never >>> >> finishes. Very time consuming and unproductive. >>> >> >>> >> I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing >>> >> important stuff. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > yeah microsoft screwed all of us VB developers.. they just don't take
it seriously.. just so that they could attract some java developers with the whole gosling move -Larry Robert Dufour wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Im my opinion, VB.Net 2005, no. I've had several situations where I was > doing forms development, made a simple change to the form and thereafter > found I could no longer open the form in design view. I could access the > code, but not the form layout. In one case it took me well over a week to > recreate the form. Needless to say I was some p... off. This occured most > frequently, I thought, when I made changes to the datasets being used by the > form without removing the controls bound to the old data first. > I consider Vs2005 to be no better than a beta product. > In theory the features are fine. In practice its another story. The problem > above has not happened lately and I keep my fingers crossed. > The configuration file XML format has changed between 2003 and 2005, which > is a pain, although I found that you can use the old appsettings - add key > tags in 2005 as it was in 2005. You can not save your application change > application scope settings, you can more easily change user scope settings. > They 'improved' the control over the application by being able to easily add > applicationsettings, but its difficut to debug the most important of all, > the unhandledexception event. > Nonetheless I use it for development because I don't want to be using a > product that is near the end of its support lifecycle, hoping that the > inevitable service packs will resolve the reliability problems. > What I do like is the easier deployment if you write everything in managed > code and getting away from dll hell. > Also, if you use third party components, make sure to test every single one > of them before you commit. I was using a third party telephony component > with Vs2005 VB.NET that I ad been using for years in VB6 and found that one > of the most important ones in VB net 2005 could not be added to a form and > that the next release is not yet scheduled. So I'm up the proverbial creek > without a paddle and learned not to assume that because the advertising said > it was compatible, it ain't necessarely so. Unfortunately its buyer beware! > > Bob > > > "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. > > > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the > > program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've > > lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never finishes. > > Very time consuming and unproductive. > > > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important > > stuff. > > VB 6.0 is the undisputed GOD of programming software. Do your self a
favour and give anything that ends in ".NET" a wide berth, every version of this garbage continues to get worse. If you feel you need to move away from VB 6.0 (not a nice thought I know), then you could consider Delphi - a more stable product than any MS offerings. Hope this helps The Grand Master Robert Dufour wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Im my opinion, VB.Net 2005, no. I've had several situations where I was > doing forms development, made a simple change to the form and thereafter > found I could no longer open the form in design view. I could access the > code, but not the form layout. In one case it took me well over a week to > recreate the form. Needless to say I was some p... off. This occured most > frequently, I thought, when I made changes to the datasets being used by the > form without removing the controls bound to the old data first. > I consider Vs2005 to be no better than a beta product. > In theory the features are fine. In practice its another story. The problem > above has not happened lately and I keep my fingers crossed. > The configuration file XML format has changed between 2003 and 2005, which > is a pain, although I found that you can use the old appsettings - add key > tags in 2005 as it was in 2005. You can not save your application change > application scope settings, you can more easily change user scope settings. > They 'improved' the control over the application by being able to easily add > applicationsettings, but its difficut to debug the most important of all, > the unhandledexception event. > Nonetheless I use it for development because I don't want to be using a > product that is near the end of its support lifecycle, hoping that the > inevitable service packs will resolve the reliability problems. > What I do like is the easier deployment if you write everything in managed > code and getting away from dll hell. > Also, if you use third party components, make sure to test every single one > of them before you commit. I was using a third party telephony component > with Vs2005 VB.NET that I ad been using for years in VB6 and found that one > of the most important ones in VB net 2005 could not be added to a form and > that the next release is not yet scheduled. So I'm up the proverbial creek > without a paddle and learned not to assume that because the advertising said > it was compatible, it ain't necessarely so. Unfortunately its buyer beware! > > Bob > > > "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. > > > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the > > program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've > > lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never finishes. > > Very time consuming and unproductive. > > > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important > > stuff. > > What about when you're *not* using Crystal Reports?
Does it work okay then? I'm not using CR, and haven't had any problems with VisualStudio2005. Robin S. ---------------- Show quoteHide quote "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the > program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've > lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never finishes. > Very time consuming and unproductive. > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important > stuff. > Hi,
Yes the VB 2005 compilier has some issues. Service pack 1 for vb should be out by the first of the year. You can download the hotfix for the vb compilier here if you need it. https://connect.microsoft.com/downloads/downloaddetails.aspx?DownloadID=3989&wa=wsignin1.0&siteid=210 Ken ---------------------------------- Show quoteHide quote "Tony Van" wrote: > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some > code. > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal > Reports, the program stutters and sends a message off to > Microsoft. Sometimes I've lost code, other times the system > sets off on a build that never finishes. Very time consuming > and unproductive. > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about > losing important stuff. > > > Ken, I get a "Page not found" when following the link you provided
(after signing-in of course) Thanks, Seth Rowe Ken Tucker [ MVP ] wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Hi, > > Yes the VB 2005 compilier has some issues. Service pack 1 for vb > should be out by the first of the year. You can download the hotfix for the > vb compilier here if you need it. > > https://connect.microsoft.com/downloads/downloaddetails.aspx?DownloadID=3989&wa=wsignin1.0&siteid=210 > > Ken > ---------------------------------- > > "Tony Van" wrote: > > > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some > > code. > > > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal > > Reports, the program stutters and sends a message off to > > Microsoft. Sometimes I've lost code, other times the system > > sets off on a build that never finishes. Very time consuming > > and unproductive. > > > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about > > losing important stuff. > > > > > > Hi,
Sorry about that. Try going to the DevDiv Hotfix Public Availability Pilot Program page and download the fix for KB920805 http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/content/content.aspx?ContentID=3705 Ken ---------------------------------- Show quoteHide quote "rowe_newsgroups" wrote: > Ken, I get a "Page not found" when following the link you provided > (after signing-in of course) > > Thanks, > > Seth Rowe > > > Ken Tucker [ MVP ] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Yes the VB 2005 compilier has some issues. Service pack 1 for vb > > should be out by the first of the year. You can download the hotfix for the > > vb compilier here if you need it. > > > > https://connect.microsoft.com/downloads/downloaddetails.aspx?DownloadID=3989&wa=wsignin1.0&siteid=210 > > > > Ken > > ---------------------------------- > > > > "Tony Van" wrote: > > > > > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some > > > code. > > > > > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal > > > Reports, the program stutters and sends a message off to > > > Microsoft. Sometimes I've lost code, other times the system > > > sets off on a build that never finishes. Very time consuming > > > and unproductive. > > > > > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about > > > losing important stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > I _WISH_ i found a 'page not found' at microsoft.com
rowe_newsgroups wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Ken, I get a "Page not found" when following the link you provided > (after signing-in of course) > > Thanks, > > Seth Rowe > > > Ken Tucker [ MVP ] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Yes the VB 2005 compilier has some issues. Service pack 1 for vb > > should be out by the first of the year. You can download the hotfix for the > > vb compilier here if you need it. > > > > https://connect.microsoft.com/downloads/downloaddetails.aspx?DownloadID=3989&wa=wsignin1.0&siteid=210 > > > > Ken > > ---------------------------------- > > > > "Tony Van" wrote: > > > > > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some > > > code. > > > > > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal > > > Reports, the program stutters and sends a message off to > > > Microsoft. Sometimes I've lost code, other times the system > > > sets off on a build that never finishes. Very time consuming > > > and unproductive. > > > > > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about > > > losing important stuff. > > > > > > > > > After sending off the next crash report, follow the link you get. I suspect
you'll end up at a TechNet article describing the crash. This article will probably say there is a Hotfix available. Call PSS for Visual Studio and give them the TechNet article id. I had a similar problem with VB 2005 and had the hotfix (actually 2 of them) in under 30 minutes. Mike Ober. Show quoteHide quote "Tony Van" <ton-jud-***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:8vKdnQS0qbN_4_nYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > I'm using Version 8, learning the language and writing some code. > > It seems every session, especially when programming Crystal Reports, the > program stutters and sends a message off to Microsoft. Sometimes I've > lost code, other times the system sets off on a build that never finishes. > Very time consuming and unproductive. > > I am alone in this? I like VB.NET but I'm worried about losing important > stuff. >
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