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Good book for an absolute beginner on VB.net or 2005 with databases

Author
25 Nov 2006 2:09 PM
weight gain 2000
Hello all!

I'm looking for a very good book for an absolute beginner on
VB.net or VB 2005 with emphasis on databases. What would you
reccommend?

Thanks!

Author
26 Nov 2006 12:33 AM
Kerry Moorman
weight gain 2000,

Are you an experienced database programmer but an absolute beginner with the
particular tool, VB2005?

Or have you never written a line of code in any language?

Kerry Moorman


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"weight gain 2000" wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I'm looking for a very good book for an absolute beginner on
> VB.net or VB 2005 with emphasis on databases. What would you
> reccommend?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
Author
26 Nov 2006 1:16 PM
weight gain 2000
Kerry Moorman wrote:

> weight gain 2000,
>
> Are you an experienced database programmer but an absolute
> beginner with the particular tool, VB2005?
>
> Or have you never written a line of code in any language?
>
> Kerry Moorman

The person I'm willing to buy this book for has absolutely no
programming experience (well, maybe he did a bit of fortran as
part of his undergraduate courses but I consider this no
experience at all, and he admits not remembering anything at
all). He just wants to learn an easy way to program database
stuff (hence VB 2005 + databases)...

So, I'm looking for a good introductory book for him.

If your experience suggests something else, feel free to correct
me
Author
26 Nov 2006 4:19 PM
Kerry Moorman
weight gain 2000,

In my opinion, your friend really needs to take one or two introductory
courses at a community/technical/undergraduate college.

The courses should cover the fundamental concepts of program design and
development that are common to all programming languages:

Algorithms
Variables
Sequence
Selection
Repetition
Code organization using procedures
Elementary data structures, such as arrays and structures
Code organization using classes and objects
Collections

I think an introductory course in database design is also very important,
even for experienced programmers who need to design a database structure as
part of their coding projects.

With this fundamental background as context, it might then be possible to
pick up specific Visual Basic skills from a book.

Kerry Moorman


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"weight gain 2000" wrote:

> Kerry Moorman wrote:
>
> > weight gain 2000,
> >
> > Are you an experienced database programmer but an absolute
> > beginner with the particular tool, VB2005?
> >
> > Or have you never written a line of code in any language?
> >
> > Kerry Moorman
>
> The person I'm willing to buy this book for has absolutely no
> programming experience (well, maybe he did a bit of fortran as
> part of his undergraduate courses but I consider this no
> experience at all, and he admits not remembering anything at
> all). He just wants to learn an easy way to program database
> stuff (hence VB 2005 + databases)...
>
> So, I'm looking for a good introductory book for him.
>
> If your experience suggests something else, feel free to correct
> me
>
Author
26 Nov 2006 10:20 PM
weight gain 2000
Kerry Moorman wrote:

Show quoteHide quote
> weight gain 2000,
>
> In my opinion, your friend really needs to take one or two
> introductory courses at a community/technical/undergraduate
> college.
>
> The courses should cover the fundamental concepts of program
> design and development that are common to all programming
> languages:
>
> Algorithms
> Variables
> Sequence
> Selection
> Repetition
> Code organization using procedures
> Elementary data structures, such as arrays and structures
> Code organization using classes and objects
> Collections
>
> I think an introductory course in database design is also very
> important, even for experienced programmers who need to design
> a database structure as part of their coding projects.
>
> With this fundamental background as context, it might then be
> possible to pick up specific Visual Basic skills from a book.
>
> Kerry Moorman

You are absolutely right there. But what I gathered from him is
that he is not at all interested in learning how to implement a
b-tree but to "just get things done" (VB-style). This will
eventually mean that he will be using the ->sort() function of
some class rather than implementing his own crap like a fawlty
bubblesort. So what he needs to do is learn how to begin
creating an app in which you hit a button and says "hello".
(Just double-click on the button and type MessageBox "Hello" or
something, rather than learning whole stuff about class
inheritance, complex event handling, etc...)