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Author
14 Dec 2006 4:14 PM
Garry
Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of My.Application???

Dim frm As Form
For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms

Next frm


Garry

Author
14 Dec 2006 4:43 PM
RobinS
I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
that you're trying to use it in?

Robin S.
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"Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
> My.Application???
>
> Dim frm As Form
> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>
> Next frm
>
>
> Garry
>
Author
15 Dec 2006 4:29 AM
Garry
Yes and VS2005 SP1 Beta as follows

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005
Version 8.0.50727.363  (SP.050727-3600)
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 2.0.50727
Installed Edition: Professional
Microsoft Visual Basic 2005   77626-009-0000007-41556

When I use the expression, it is immediately underlined in green.

Thanks

Garry


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"RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
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>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
> that you're trying to use it in?
>
> Robin S.
> ----------------------------
> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of My.Application???
>>
>> Dim frm As Form
>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>
>> Next frm
>>
>>
>> Garry
>>
>
>
>
Author
15 Dec 2006 5:15 AM
Garry
Ah Robin,

I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the 'enable
application framework' checkbox is unchecked.

I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub Main() as
the starting point for the code.

There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as Microsoft
presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no internal support for
INI files either in vb2005). Just try to resize an MDI child to fit the
Client Rectangle in the parent form exactly. It was all so simple in VB6

However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly constructive
info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to redefine my
application.

Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if I leave
this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is the source of my
present troubles.

I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.

One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when using
Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the green line
background on Application.Run(frmMain)..

Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.

Garry


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"RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
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>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
> that you're trying to use it in?
>
> Robin S.
> ----------------------------
> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of My.Application???
>>
>> Dim frm As Form
>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>
>> Next frm
>>
>>
>> Garry
>>
>
>
>
Author
15 Dec 2006 5:56 AM
RobinS
Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
You could always search Google.

I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?

Robin S.
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"Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ah Robin,
>
> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
>
> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub Main()
> as the starting point for the code.
>
> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as
> Microsoft presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no
> internal support for INI files either in vb2005). Just try to resize
> an MDI child to fit the Client Rectangle in the parent form exactly.
> It was all so simple in VB6
>
> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
> redefine my application.
>
> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if I
> leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is the
> source of my present troubles.
>
> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
>
> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when using
> Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the green
> line background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
>
> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Garry
>
>
> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
>> that you're trying to use it in?
>>
>> Robin S.
>> ----------------------------
>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
>>> My.Application???
>>>
>>> Dim frm As Form
>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>>
>>> Next frm
>>>
>>>
>>> Garry
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
15 Dec 2006 12:38 PM
Garry
>Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
Conservatism - an abominable affliction in a computer programmer.

The problem is not the Startup but I will remember your comment if I do
change back to frmMain as the start form.

Have you solved the problem of sizing a child form to fit the MDI client
rectangle BUT, the user must be able to move the form within the parent
form.. My solution is not elegant and I wonder how other people solved it.
Perhaps other programmers do not need to. I do not want the child maximised,
thats too easy, I want the child to completely fill the available area and
yet be 'moveable'.

I saw a solution to a forms collection in code with the Load event being
used in each child form to add it to a User Defined forms collection. I have
to consider this carefully. It was written for VS2003 and the article
specifically states that the 'openforms' is available in 2005.

I say it again - things were so simple in VB6.

If only someone had uddated the VB6 GUI and come out with a non Microsoft
VB7 with the improved intellisense on vb2005.

A DOTNET framework for Linux or Mackintosh has not materalised so that one
of the much taunted features at the release of the .NET languages back in
2002 has not been realised. Garbage Collection is simply not mentioned any
more. I am however, enjoying ADO.NET with SQLCE which has replaced my
original Access database. Very fast.

Anyway, thanks for your answers.

Garry



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"RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
> the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
> Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
> You could always search Google.
>
> I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
> Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>
> Robin S.
> -------------------------------
> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%2372JBgAIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Ah Robin,
>>
>> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
>> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
>>
>> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub Main() as
>> the starting point for the code.
>>
>> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as Microsoft
>> presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no internal support for
>> INI files either in vb2005). Just try to resize an MDI child to fit the
>> Client Rectangle in the parent form exactly. It was all so simple in VB6
>>
>> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
>> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
>> redefine my application.
>>
>> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if I
>> leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is the
>> source of my present troubles.
>>
>> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
>> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
>>
>> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when using
>> Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the green line
>> background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
>>
>> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Garry
>>
>>
>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
>>> that you're trying to use it in?
>>>
>>> Robin S.
>>> ----------------------------
>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
>>>> My.Application???
>>>>
>>>> Dim frm As Form
>>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>>>
>>>> Next frm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Garry
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
16 Dec 2006 3:26 AM
RobinS
Conservatism is not so bad. I tend to write things to help me
do my job. In one job, my boss was looking over my shoulder at
the app I'd written for myself, and wanted it. By the end of
the month, it had propagated to 50 people, and turned out to be
one of the most popular things I'd written. Pretty entertaining.

I haven't solved the problem you've discussed about sizing the
child form to the max size w/o maxinimizing it. Maybe your
solution is the best (and only).

I heard on one of the DotNetRocks podcasts that the guy who
wrote Salamander (a product, IIRC, that will turn your
installed apps back into code, so you should use an obfuscator)
has also managed to port .Net to a Unix machine. He said it's
working pretty good, but isn't ready for prime time. It was
interesting.

Sorry you're missing the VB6 IDE; I'm enjoying .Net. It was
worth the upgrade for the data binding alone as far as I'm
concerned. :-) And Generics. (OOP goes w/o saying.)

Good luck.
Robin S.
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"Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
> Conservatism - an abominable affliction in a computer programmer.
>
> The problem is not the Startup but I will remember your comment if I
> do change back to frmMain as the start form.
>
> Have you solved the problem of sizing a child form to fit the MDI
> client rectangle BUT, the user must be able to move the form within
> the parent form.. My solution is not elegant and I wonder how other
> people solved it. Perhaps other programmers do not need to. I do not
> want the child maximised, thats too easy, I want the child to
> completely fill the available area and yet be 'moveable'.
>
> I saw a solution to a forms collection in code with the Load event
> being used in each child form to add it to a User Defined forms
> collection. I have to consider this carefully. It was written for
> VS2003 and the article specifically states that the 'openforms' is
> available in 2005.
>
> I say it again - things were so simple in VB6.
>
> If only someone had uddated the VB6 GUI and come out with a non
> Microsoft VB7 with the improved intellisense on vb2005.
>
> A DOTNET framework for Linux or Mackintosh has not materalised so that
> one of the much taunted features at the release of the .NET languages
> back in 2002 has not been realised. Garbage Collection is simply not
> mentioned any more. I am however, enjoying ADO.NET with SQLCE which
> has replaced my original Access database. Very fast.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your answers.
>
> Garry
>
>
>
> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
> news:F8qdnYO0iaq3pB_YnZ2dnUVZ_hy3nZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
>> the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
>> Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
>> You could always search Google.
>>
>> I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
>> Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>
>> Robin S.
>> -------------------------------
>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%2372JBgAIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Ah Robin,
>>>
>>> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
>>> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
>>>
>>> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub
>>> Main() as the starting point for the code.
>>>
>>> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as
>>> Microsoft presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no
>>> internal support for INI files either in vb2005). Just try to resize
>>> an MDI child to fit the Client Rectangle in the parent form exactly.
>>> It was all so simple in VB6
>>>
>>> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
>>> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
>>> redefine my application.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if
>>> I leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is
>>> the source of my present troubles.
>>>
>>> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
>>> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
>>>
>>> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when
>>> using Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the
>>> green line background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
>>>
>>> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Garry
>>>
>>>
>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
>>>> that you're trying to use it in?
>>>>
>>>> Robin S.
>>>> ----------------------------
>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>>>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
>>>>> My.Application???
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim frm As Form
>>>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>>>>
>>>>> Next frm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Garry
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
16 Dec 2006 9:11 AM
Stephany Young
Leesten veeeery carefully.  I shall say theees only vonce!

  Dim _f As New Form2

' parent the form the the MDI Container
  _f.MdiParent = Me

' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
  For Each _c As Control In Controls
    If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
      _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
      Exit For
    End If
  Next

  _f.Show()

Et voila!!!!!!!!!!


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"Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
> Conservatism - an abominable affliction in a computer programmer.
>
> The problem is not the Startup but I will remember your comment if I do
> change back to frmMain as the start form.
>
> Have you solved the problem of sizing a child form to fit the MDI client
> rectangle BUT, the user must be able to move the form within the parent
> form.. My solution is not elegant and I wonder how other people solved it.
> Perhaps other programmers do not need to. I do not want the child
> maximised, thats too easy, I want the child to completely fill the
> available area and yet be 'moveable'.
>
> I saw a solution to a forms collection in code with the Load event being
> used in each child form to add it to a User Defined forms collection. I
> have to consider this carefully. It was written for VS2003 and the article
> specifically states that the 'openforms' is available in 2005.
>
> I say it again - things were so simple in VB6.
>
> If only someone had uddated the VB6 GUI and come out with a non Microsoft
> VB7 with the improved intellisense on vb2005.
>
> A DOTNET framework for Linux or Mackintosh has not materalised so that one
> of the much taunted features at the release of the .NET languages back in
> 2002 has not been realised. Garbage Collection is simply not mentioned any
> more. I am however, enjoying ADO.NET with SQLCE which has replaced my
> original Access database. Very fast.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your answers.
>
> Garry
>
>
>
> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
> news:F8qdnYO0iaq3pB_YnZ2dnUVZ_hy3nZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
>> the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
>> Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
>> You could always search Google.
>>
>> I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
>> Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>
>> Robin S.
>> -------------------------------
>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%2372JBgAIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Ah Robin,
>>>
>>> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
>>> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
>>>
>>> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub Main()
>>> as the starting point for the code.
>>>
>>> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as
>>> Microsoft presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no internal
>>> support for INI files either in vb2005). Just try to resize an MDI child
>>> to fit the Client Rectangle in the parent form exactly. It was all so
>>> simple in VB6
>>>
>>> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
>>> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
>>> redefine my application.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if I
>>> leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is the
>>> source of my present troubles.
>>>
>>> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
>>> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
>>>
>>> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when using
>>> Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the green line
>>> background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
>>>
>>> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Garry
>>>
>>>
>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
>>>> that you're trying to use it in?
>>>>
>>>> Robin S.
>>>> ----------------------------
>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>>>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
>>>>> My.Application???
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim frm As Form
>>>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>>>>
>>>>> Next frm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Garry
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
16 Dec 2006 5:23 PM
Garry
Thank you Stephany,

Will try and re-post.

Assuming that it werks, where did U get it or woz it simply INTUITIVE???????

Garry




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"Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
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> Leesten veeeery carefully.  I shall say theees only vonce!
>
>  Dim _f As New Form2
>
> ' parent the form the the MDI Container
>  _f.MdiParent = Me
>
> ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
>  For Each _c As Control In Controls
>    If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
>      _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
>      Exit For
>    End If
>  Next
>
>  _f.Show()
>
> Et voila!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uCoTCYEIHHA.4804@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>> Conservatism - an abominable affliction in a computer programmer.
>>
>> The problem is not the Startup but I will remember your comment if I do
>> change back to frmMain as the start form.
>>
>> Have you solved the problem of sizing a child form to fit the MDI client
>> rectangle BUT, the user must be able to move the form within the parent
>> form.. My solution is not elegant and I wonder how other people solved
>> it. Perhaps other programmers do not need to. I do not want the child
>> maximised, thats too easy, I want the child to completely fill the
>> available area and yet be 'moveable'.
>>
>> I saw a solution to a forms collection in code with the Load event being
>> used in each child form to add it to a User Defined forms collection. I
>> have to consider this carefully. It was written for VS2003 and the
>> article specifically states that the 'openforms' is available in 2005.
>>
>> I say it again - things were so simple in VB6.
>>
>> If only someone had uddated the VB6 GUI and come out with a non Microsoft
>> VB7 with the improved intellisense on vb2005.
>>
>> A DOTNET framework for Linux or Mackintosh has not materalised so that
>> one of the much taunted features at the release of the .NET languages
>> back in 2002 has not been realised. Garbage Collection is simply not
>> mentioned any more. I am however, enjoying ADO.NET with SQLCE which has
>> replaced my original Access database. Very fast.
>>
>> Anyway, thanks for your answers.
>>
>> Garry
>>
>>
>>
>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>> news:F8qdnYO0iaq3pB_YnZ2dnUVZ_hy3nZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
>>> the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
>>> Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
>>> You could always search Google.
>>>
>>> I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
>>> Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>>
>>> Robin S.
>>> -------------------------------
>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%2372JBgAIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ah Robin,
>>>>
>>>> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
>>>> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
>>>>
>>>> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub Main()
>>>> as the starting point for the code.
>>>>
>>>> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as
>>>> Microsoft presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no internal
>>>> support for INI files either in vb2005). Just try to resize an MDI
>>>> child to fit the Client Rectangle in the parent form exactly. It was
>>>> all so simple in VB6
>>>>
>>>> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
>>>> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
>>>> redefine my application.
>>>>
>>>> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if I
>>>> leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is the
>>>> source of my present troubles.
>>>>
>>>> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
>>>> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
>>>>
>>>> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when using
>>>> Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the green
>>>> line background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
>>>>
>>>> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Garry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>>> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
>>>>> that you're trying to use it in?
>>>>>
>>>>> Robin S.
>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>>>>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
>>>>>> My.Application???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dim frm As Form
>>>>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next frm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
16 Dec 2006 9:28 PM
Stephany Young
I hit hit F1, switched to the index tab, typed in 'mdiclient', selected
'about MdiClient class', noticed that it it derived from
System.Windows.Forms.Control, scrolled down a bit and read the remarks,
tried a stock standard 'controls loop' to check that it was actually
present, then had a look at the members to find a suitable property or
method.

BTW. It doesn't work if the StartPosition property of Form2 is set to
WindowsDefaultsBounds.


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"Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you Stephany,
>
> Will try and re-post.
>
> Assuming that it werks, where did U get it or woz it simply
> INTUITIVE???????
>
> Garry
>
>
>
>
> "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
> news:ecH3pIPIHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Leesten veeeery carefully.  I shall say theees only vonce!
>>
>>  Dim _f As New Form2
>>
>> ' parent the form the the MDI Container
>>  _f.MdiParent = Me
>>
>> ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
>>  For Each _c As Control In Controls
>>    If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
>>      _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
>>      Exit For
>>    End If
>>  Next
>>
>>  _f.Show()
>>
>> Et voila!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uCoTCYEIHHA.4804@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> >Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>> Conservatism - an abominable affliction in a computer programmer.
>>>
>>> The problem is not the Startup but I will remember your comment if I do
>>> change back to frmMain as the start form.
>>>
>>> Have you solved the problem of sizing a child form to fit the MDI client
>>> rectangle BUT, the user must be able to move the form within the parent
>>> form.. My solution is not elegant and I wonder how other people solved
>>> it. Perhaps other programmers do not need to. I do not want the child
>>> maximised, thats too easy, I want the child to completely fill the
>>> available area and yet be 'moveable'.
>>>
>>> I saw a solution to a forms collection in code with the Load event being
>>> used in each child form to add it to a User Defined forms collection. I
>>> have to consider this carefully. It was written for VS2003 and the
>>> article specifically states that the 'openforms' is available in 2005.
>>>
>>> I say it again - things were so simple in VB6.
>>>
>>> If only someone had uddated the VB6 GUI and come out with a non
>>> Microsoft VB7 with the improved intellisense on vb2005.
>>>
>>> A DOTNET framework for Linux or Mackintosh has not materalised so that
>>> one of the much taunted features at the release of the .NET languages
>>> back in 2002 has not been realised. Garbage Collection is simply not
>>> mentioned any more. I am however, enjoying ADO.NET with SQLCE which has
>>> replaced my original Access database. Very fast.
>>>
>>> Anyway, thanks for your answers.
>>>
>>> Garry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>> news:F8qdnYO0iaq3pB_YnZ2dnUVZ_hy3nZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
>>>> the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
>>>> Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
>>>> You could always search Google.
>>>>
>>>> I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
>>>> Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>>>
>>>> Robin S.
>>>> -------------------------------
>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%2372JBgAIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ah Robin,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
>>>>> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub Main()
>>>>> as the starting point for the code.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as
>>>>> Microsoft presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no
>>>>> internal support for INI files either in vb2005). Just try to resize
>>>>> an MDI child to fit the Client Rectangle in the parent form exactly.
>>>>> It was all so simple in VB6
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
>>>>> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
>>>>> redefine my application.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if I
>>>>> leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is the
>>>>> source of my present troubles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
>>>>> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when using
>>>>> Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the green
>>>>> line background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
>>>>>
>>>>> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Garry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
>>>>>> that you're trying to use it in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin S.
>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>>>>>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
>>>>>>> My.Application???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dim frm As Form
>>>>>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next frm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
17 Dec 2006 5:55 AM
Garry
OK.

I tried the solution Stephany but the results were not quite as I expected.

The code was revised as

Shared Sub A_ResizeToFit(ByVal frmMain As Form, ByVal _f As Form)
    ' parent the form the the MDI Container
    _f.MdiParent = frmMain

    ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
    For Each _c As Control In frmMain.Controls
        If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
            _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
            Exit For
        End If
    Next
    _f.Show()
End Sub

Which I think you will agree is correct with small name changes. The result
was a cascaded arrangement whereby the first mdi child generated was at a
small displacement and each subsequent MDI child generated at a furthur
displacement.

I solved the problem with the following code which you may or may not make
use of. It is a function which can be placed in a class and has a
displacement from the left to allow a Tree navigator as a separate MDI child
to be displayed alongside the MDI child.

Shared Sub FitChildToMDI(ByVal frmMDI As Form, ByRef frmChild As Form, ByVal
lngTreeWidth As Long)

    Dim lngTop As Long
    Dim lngLeft As Long
    Dim lngWidth As Long
    Dim lngHeight As Long
    frmChild.Dock = DockStyle.Fill

    frmChild.Show() 'Do a 'show' to capture the true size and position of
the MDI child before removing the DockStyle.Fill
    lngTop = frmChild.Top
    lngLeft = frmChild.Left
    lngWidth = frmChild.Width
    lngHeight = frmChild.Height
    frmChild.Dock = DockStyle.None

    'Now manipulate the form to size and position - it can be resized by the
user anytime as it is now DockStyle.None
    frmChild.Top = lngTop
    frmChild.Left = lngLeft + lngTreeWidth
    frmChild.Width = lngWidth - lngTreeWidth
    frmChild.Height = lngHeight

End Sub

BUT
It causes a flicker which is not to my liking.
I was all so simple in VB6 and I find this code, to say the least - gross.

Your's was much more elegant but did not give me the required results that I
needed. It was however a valid attempt and thank you for that. I have
learned something.

Thanks again

Garry


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"Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
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>I hit hit F1, switched to the index tab, typed in 'mdiclient', selected
>'about MdiClient class', noticed that it it derived from
>System.Windows.Forms.Control, scrolled down a bit and read the remarks,
>tried a stock standard 'controls loop' to check that it was actually
>present, then had a look at the members to find a suitable property or
>method.
>
> BTW. It doesn't work if the StartPosition property of Form2 is set to
> WindowsDefaultsBounds.
>
>
> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Omw6dbTIHHA.4112@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you Stephany,
>>
>> Will try and re-post.
>>
>> Assuming that it werks, where did U get it or woz it simply
>> INTUITIVE???????
>>
>> Garry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
>> news:ecH3pIPIHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Leesten veeeery carefully.  I shall say theees only vonce!
>>>
>>>  Dim _f As New Form2
>>>
>>> ' parent the form the the MDI Container
>>>  _f.MdiParent = Me
>>>
>>> ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
>>>  For Each _c As Control In Controls
>>>    If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
>>>      _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
>>>      Exit For
>>>    End If
>>>  Next
>>>
>>>  _f.Show()
>>>
>>> Et voila!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uCoTCYEIHHA.4804@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> >Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>>> Conservatism - an abominable affliction in a computer programmer.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is not the Startup but I will remember your comment if I do
>>>> change back to frmMain as the start form.
>>>>
>>>> Have you solved the problem of sizing a child form to fit the MDI
>>>> client rectangle BUT, the user must be able to move the form within the
>>>> parent form.. My solution is not elegant and I wonder how other people
>>>> solved it. Perhaps other programmers do not need to. I do not want the
>>>> child maximised, thats too easy, I want the child to completely fill
>>>> the available area and yet be 'moveable'.
>>>>
>>>> I saw a solution to a forms collection in code with the Load event
>>>> being used in each child form to add it to a User Defined forms
>>>> collection. I have to consider this carefully. It was written for
>>>> VS2003 and the article specifically states that the 'openforms' is
>>>> available in 2005.
>>>>
>>>> I say it again - things were so simple in VB6.
>>>>
>>>> If only someone had uddated the VB6 GUI and come out with a non
>>>> Microsoft VB7 with the improved intellisense on vb2005.
>>>>
>>>> A DOTNET framework for Linux or Mackintosh has not materalised so that
>>>> one of the much taunted features at the release of the .NET languages
>>>> back in 2002 has not been realised. Garbage Collection is simply not
>>>> mentioned any more. I am however, enjoying ADO.NET with SQLCE which has
>>>> replaced my original Access database. Very fast.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, thanks for your answers.
>>>>
>>>> Garry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>>> news:F8qdnYO0iaq3pB_YnZ2dnUVZ_hy3nZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
>>>>> the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
>>>>> Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
>>>>> You could always search Google.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
>>>>> Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>>>>
>>>>> Robin S.
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%2372JBgAIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ah Robin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
>>>>>> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub
>>>>>> Main() as the starting point for the code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as
>>>>>> Microsoft presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no
>>>>>> internal support for INI files either in vb2005). Just try to resize
>>>>>> an MDI child to fit the Client Rectangle in the parent form exactly.
>>>>>> It was all so simple in VB6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
>>>>>> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
>>>>>> redefine my application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if I
>>>>>> leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is the
>>>>>> source of my present troubles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
>>>>>> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when
>>>>>> using Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the
>>>>>> green line background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
>>>>>>> that you're trying to use it in?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robin S.
>>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>>>>>>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
>>>>>>>> My.Application???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dim frm As Form
>>>>>>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Next frm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
17 Dec 2006 8:48 AM
Stephany Young
Ok, so I made a little mistake. It does work if the StartPosition property
of Form2 is set to
Manual or CenterScreen. It doesn't work if it is set to anything else. I
thought that the fact that it didn't work for one setting might have led you
to investigate the others.

If you start manipulating the position of MDI Child forms after they have
been shown then you WILL get flicker as the repaints occur.


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"Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uCifEAaIHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> OK.
>
> I tried the solution Stephany but the results were not quite as I
> expected.
>
> The code was revised as
>
> Shared Sub A_ResizeToFit(ByVal frmMain As Form, ByVal _f As Form)
>    ' parent the form the the MDI Container
>    _f.MdiParent = frmMain
>
>    ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
>    For Each _c As Control In frmMain.Controls
>        If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
>            _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
>            Exit For
>        End If
>    Next
>    _f.Show()
> End Sub
>
> Which I think you will agree is correct with small name changes. The
> result was a cascaded arrangement whereby the first mdi child generated
> was at a small displacement and each subsequent MDI child generated at a
> furthur displacement.
>
> I solved the problem with the following code which you may or may not make
> use of. It is a function which can be placed in a class and has a
> displacement from the left to allow a Tree navigator as a separate MDI
> child to be displayed alongside the MDI child.
>
> Shared Sub FitChildToMDI(ByVal frmMDI As Form, ByRef frmChild As Form,
> ByVal lngTreeWidth As Long)
>
>    Dim lngTop As Long
>    Dim lngLeft As Long
>    Dim lngWidth As Long
>    Dim lngHeight As Long
>    frmChild.Dock = DockStyle.Fill
>
>    frmChild.Show() 'Do a 'show' to capture the true size and position of
> the MDI child before removing the DockStyle.Fill
>    lngTop = frmChild.Top
>    lngLeft = frmChild.Left
>    lngWidth = frmChild.Width
>    lngHeight = frmChild.Height
>    frmChild.Dock = DockStyle.None
>
>    'Now manipulate the form to size and position - it can be resized by
> the user anytime as it is now DockStyle.None
>    frmChild.Top = lngTop
>    frmChild.Left = lngLeft + lngTreeWidth
>    frmChild.Width = lngWidth - lngTreeWidth
>    frmChild.Height = lngHeight
>
> End Sub
>
> BUT
> It causes a flicker which is not to my liking.
> I was all so simple in VB6 and I find this code, to say the least - gross.
>
> Your's was much more elegant but did not give me the required results that
> I needed. It was however a valid attempt and thank you for that. I have
> learned something.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Garry
>
>
> .
>
> "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
> news:e4vagkVIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I hit hit F1, switched to the index tab, typed in 'mdiclient', selected
>>'about MdiClient class', noticed that it it derived from
>>System.Windows.Forms.Control, scrolled down a bit and read the remarks,
>>tried a stock standard 'controls loop' to check that it was actually
>>present, then had a look at the members to find a suitable property or
>>method.
>>
>> BTW. It doesn't work if the StartPosition property of Form2 is set to
>> WindowsDefaultsBounds.
>>
>>
>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Omw6dbTIHHA.4112@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Thank you Stephany,
>>>
>>> Will try and re-post.
>>>
>>> Assuming that it werks, where did U get it or woz it simply
>>> INTUITIVE???????
>>>
>>> Garry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
>>> news:ecH3pIPIHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Leesten veeeery carefully.  I shall say theees only vonce!
>>>>
>>>>  Dim _f As New Form2
>>>>
>>>> ' parent the form the the MDI Container
>>>>  _f.MdiParent = Me
>>>>
>>>> ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
>>>>  For Each _c As Control In Controls
>>>>    If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
>>>>      _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
>>>>      Exit For
>>>>    End If
>>>>  Next
>>>>
>>>>  _f.Show()
>>>>
>>>> Et voila!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uCoTCYEIHHA.4804@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>>>> Conservatism - an abominable affliction in a computer programmer.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is not the Startup but I will remember your comment if I
>>>>> do change back to frmMain as the start form.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you solved the problem of sizing a child form to fit the MDI
>>>>> client rectangle BUT, the user must be able to move the form within
>>>>> the parent form.. My solution is not elegant and I wonder how other
>>>>> people solved it. Perhaps other programmers do not need to. I do not
>>>>> want the child maximised, thats too easy, I want the child to
>>>>> completely fill the available area and yet be 'moveable'.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw a solution to a forms collection in code with the Load event
>>>>> being used in each child form to add it to a User Defined forms
>>>>> collection. I have to consider this carefully. It was written for
>>>>> VS2003 and the article specifically states that the 'openforms' is
>>>>> available in 2005.
>>>>>
>>>>> I say it again - things were so simple in VB6.
>>>>>
>>>>> If only someone had uddated the VB6 GUI and come out with a non
>>>>> Microsoft VB7 with the improved intellisense on vb2005.
>>>>>
>>>>> A DOTNET framework for Linux or Mackintosh has not materalised so that
>>>>> one of the much taunted features at the release of the .NET languages
>>>>> back in 2002 has not been realised. Garbage Collection is simply not
>>>>> mentioned any more. I am however, enjoying ADO.NET with SQLCE which
>>>>> has replaced my original Access database. Very fast.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, thanks for your answers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Garry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:F8qdnYO0iaq3pB_YnZ2dnUVZ_hy3nZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
>>>>>> the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
>>>>>> Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
>>>>>> You could always search Google.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
>>>>>> Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin S.
>>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%2372JBgAIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Ah Robin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
>>>>>>> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub
>>>>>>> Main() as the starting point for the code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as
>>>>>>> Microsoft presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no
>>>>>>> internal support for INI files either in vb2005). Just try to resize
>>>>>>> an MDI child to fit the Client Rectangle in the parent form exactly.
>>>>>>> It was all so simple in VB6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
>>>>>>> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
>>>>>>> redefine my application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if
>>>>>>> I leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is
>>>>>>> the source of my present troubles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
>>>>>>> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when
>>>>>>> using Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the
>>>>>>> green line background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
>>>>>>>> that you're trying to use it in?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robin S.
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>>>>>>>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
>>>>>>>>> My.Application???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dim frm As Form
>>>>>>>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Next frm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
18 Dec 2006 4:21 AM
Garry
Yes,

Thank you Stephany.

That does work now.

I moved the .Show() to end of any further manipulations and the resultant
DISPLAY was perfect

Thanks very much again.

Garry


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"Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
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> Ok, so I made a little mistake. It does work if the StartPosition property
> of Form2 is set to
> Manual or CenterScreen. It doesn't work if it is set to anything else. I
> thought that the fact that it didn't work for one setting might have led
> you to investigate the others.
>
> If you start manipulating the position of MDI Child forms after they have
> been shown then you WILL get flicker as the repaints occur.
>
>
> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uCifEAaIHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> OK.
>>
>> I tried the solution Stephany but the results were not quite as I
>> expected.
>>
>> The code was revised as
>>
>> Shared Sub A_ResizeToFit(ByVal frmMain As Form, ByVal _f As Form)
>>    ' parent the form the the MDI Container
>>    _f.MdiParent = frmMain
>>
>>    ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
>>    For Each _c As Control In frmMain.Controls
>>        If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
>>            _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
>>            Exit For
>>        End If
>>    Next
>>    _f.Show()
>> End Sub
>>
>> Which I think you will agree is correct with small name changes. The
>> result was a cascaded arrangement whereby the first mdi child generated
>> was at a small displacement and each subsequent MDI child generated at a
>> furthur displacement.
>>
>> I solved the problem with the following code which you may or may not
>> make use of. It is a function which can be placed in a class and has a
>> displacement from the left to allow a Tree navigator as a separate MDI
>> child to be displayed alongside the MDI child.
>>
>> Shared Sub FitChildToMDI(ByVal frmMDI As Form, ByRef frmChild As Form,
>> ByVal lngTreeWidth As Long)
>>
>>    Dim lngTop As Long
>>    Dim lngLeft As Long
>>    Dim lngWidth As Long
>>    Dim lngHeight As Long
>>    frmChild.Dock = DockStyle.Fill
>>
>>    frmChild.Show() 'Do a 'show' to capture the true size and position of
>> the MDI child before removing the DockStyle.Fill
>>    lngTop = frmChild.Top
>>    lngLeft = frmChild.Left
>>    lngWidth = frmChild.Width
>>    lngHeight = frmChild.Height
>>    frmChild.Dock = DockStyle.None
>>
>>    'Now manipulate the form to size and position - it can be resized by
>> the user anytime as it is now DockStyle.None
>>    frmChild.Top = lngTop
>>    frmChild.Left = lngLeft + lngTreeWidth
>>    frmChild.Width = lngWidth - lngTreeWidth
>>    frmChild.Height = lngHeight
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>> BUT
>> It causes a flicker which is not to my liking.
>> I was all so simple in VB6 and I find this code, to say the least -
>> gross.
>>
>> Your's was much more elegant but did not give me the required results
>> that I needed. It was however a valid attempt and thank you for that. I
>> have learned something.
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> Garry
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>> "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
>> news:e4vagkVIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>I hit hit F1, switched to the index tab, typed in 'mdiclient', selected
>>>'about MdiClient class', noticed that it it derived from
>>>System.Windows.Forms.Control, scrolled down a bit and read the remarks,
>>>tried a stock standard 'controls loop' to check that it was actually
>>>present, then had a look at the members to find a suitable property or
>>>method.
>>>
>>> BTW. It doesn't work if the StartPosition property of Form2 is set to
>>> WindowsDefaultsBounds.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Omw6dbTIHHA.4112@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thank you Stephany,
>>>>
>>>> Will try and re-post.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that it werks, where did U get it or woz it simply
>>>> INTUITIVE???????
>>>>
>>>> Garry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
>>>> news:ecH3pIPIHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Leesten veeeery carefully.  I shall say theees only vonce!
>>>>>
>>>>>  Dim _f As New Form2
>>>>>
>>>>> ' parent the form the the MDI Container
>>>>>  _f.MdiParent = Me
>>>>>
>>>>> ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
>>>>>  For Each _c As Control In Controls
>>>>>    If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
>>>>>      _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
>>>>>      Exit For
>>>>>    End If
>>>>>  Next
>>>>>
>>>>>  _f.Show()
>>>>>
>>>>> Et voila!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uCoTCYEIHHA.4804@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> >Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>>>>> Conservatism - an abominable affliction in a computer programmer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is not the Startup but I will remember your comment if I
>>>>>> do change back to frmMain as the start form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you solved the problem of sizing a child form to fit the MDI
>>>>>> client rectangle BUT, the user must be able to move the form within
>>>>>> the parent form.. My solution is not elegant and I wonder how other
>>>>>> people solved it. Perhaps other programmers do not need to. I do not
>>>>>> want the child maximised, thats too easy, I want the child to
>>>>>> completely fill the available area and yet be 'moveable'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw a solution to a forms collection in code with the Load event
>>>>>> being used in each child form to add it to a User Defined forms
>>>>>> collection. I have to consider this carefully. It was written for
>>>>>> VS2003 and the article specifically states that the 'openforms' is
>>>>>> available in 2005.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I say it again - things were so simple in VB6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If only someone had uddated the VB6 GUI and come out with a non
>>>>>> Microsoft VB7 with the improved intellisense on vb2005.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A DOTNET framework for Linux or Mackintosh has not materalised so
>>>>>> that one of the much taunted features at the release of the .NET
>>>>>> languages back in 2002 has not been realised. Garbage Collection is
>>>>>> simply not mentioned any more. I am however, enjoying ADO.NET with
>>>>>> SQLCE which has replaced my original Access database. Very fast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, thanks for your answers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:F8qdnYO0iaq3pB_YnZ2dnUVZ_hy3nZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
>>>>>>> the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
>>>>>>> Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
>>>>>>> You could always search Google.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
>>>>>>> Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robin S.
>>>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%2372JBgAIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Ah Robin,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
>>>>>>>> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub
>>>>>>>> Main() as the starting point for the code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as
>>>>>>>> Microsoft presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no
>>>>>>>> internal support for INI files either in vb2005). Just try to
>>>>>>>> resize an MDI child to fit the Client Rectangle in the parent form
>>>>>>>> exactly. It was all so simple in VB6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
>>>>>>>> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
>>>>>>>> redefine my application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if
>>>>>>>> I leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is
>>>>>>>> the source of my present troubles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
>>>>>>>> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when
>>>>>>>> using Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the
>>>>>>>> green line background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
>>>>>>>>> that you're trying to use it in?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robin S.
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
>>>>>>>>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
>>>>>>>>>> My.Application???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dim frm As Form
>>>>>>>>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Next frm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
4 Jan 2007 11:47 PM
LLcoolQ
This is great stuff.  i mucked around all day with some other things.

Garry, do you use a combination of Stephany's code and yours?  where do
you place the call to the size routine?

It was much simpler in VB6

Garry wrote:
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> Yes,
>
> Thank you Stephany.
>
> That does work now.
>
> I moved the .Show() to end of any further manipulations and the resultant
> DISPLAY was perfect
>
> Thanks very much again.
>
> Garry
>
>
> "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
> news:%23fGkpgbIHHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Ok, so I made a little mistake. It does work if the StartPosition property
> > of Form2 is set to
> > Manual or CenterScreen. It doesn't work if it is set to anything else. I
> > thought that the fact that it didn't work for one setting might have led
> > you to investigate the others.
> >
> > If you start manipulating the position of MDI Child forms after they have
> > been shown then you WILL get flicker as the repaints occur.
> >
> >
> > "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:uCifEAaIHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> OK.
> >>
> >> I tried the solution Stephany but the results were not quite as I
> >> expected.
> >>
> >> The code was revised as
> >>
> >> Shared Sub A_ResizeToFit(ByVal frmMain As Form, ByVal _f As Form)
> >>    ' parent the form the the MDI Container
> >>    _f.MdiParent = frmMain
> >>
> >>    ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
> >>    For Each _c As Control In frmMain.Controls
> >>        If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
> >>            _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
> >>            Exit For
> >>        End If
> >>    Next
> >>    _f.Show()
> >> End Sub
> >>
> >> Which I think you will agree is correct with small name changes. The
> >> result was a cascaded arrangement whereby the first mdi child generated
> >> was at a small displacement and each subsequent MDI child generated at a
> >> furthur displacement.
> >>
> >> I solved the problem with the following code which you may or may not
> >> make use of. It is a function which can be placed in a class and has a
> >> displacement from the left to allow a Tree navigator as a separate MDI
> >> child to be displayed alongside the MDI child.
> >>
> >> Shared Sub FitChildToMDI(ByVal frmMDI As Form, ByRef frmChild As Form,
> >> ByVal lngTreeWidth As Long)
> >>
> >>    Dim lngTop As Long
> >>    Dim lngLeft As Long
> >>    Dim lngWidth As Long
> >>    Dim lngHeight As Long
> >>    frmChild.Dock = DockStyle.Fill
> >>
> >>    frmChild.Show() 'Do a 'show' to capture the true size and position of
> >> the MDI child before removing the DockStyle.Fill
> >>    lngTop = frmChild.Top
> >>    lngLeft = frmChild.Left
> >>    lngWidth = frmChild.Width
> >>    lngHeight = frmChild.Height
> >>    frmChild.Dock = DockStyle.None
> >>
> >>    'Now manipulate the form to size and position - it can be resized by
> >> the user anytime as it is now DockStyle.None
> >>    frmChild.Top = lngTop
> >>    frmChild.Left = lngLeft + lngTreeWidth
> >>    frmChild.Width = lngWidth - lngTreeWidth
> >>    frmChild.Height = lngHeight
> >>
> >> End Sub
> >>
> >> BUT
> >> It causes a flicker which is not to my liking.
> >> I was all so simple in VB6 and I find this code, to say the least -
> >> gross.
> >>
> >> Your's was much more elegant but did not give me the required results
> >> that I needed. It was however a valid attempt and thank you for that. I
> >> have learned something.
> >>
> >> Thanks again
> >>
> >> Garry
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
> >> news:e4vagkVIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>I hit hit F1, switched to the index tab, typed in 'mdiclient', selected
> >>>'about MdiClient class', noticed that it it derived from
> >>>System.Windows.Forms.Control, scrolled down a bit and read the remarks,
> >>>tried a stock standard 'controls loop' to check that it was actually
> >>>present, then had a look at the members to find a suitable property or
> >>>method.
> >>>
> >>> BTW. It doesn't work if the StartPosition property of Form2 is set to
> >>> WindowsDefaultsBounds.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:Omw6dbTIHHA.4112@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Thank you Stephany,
> >>>>
> >>>> Will try and re-post.
> >>>>
> >>>> Assuming that it werks, where did U get it or woz it simply
> >>>> INTUITIVE???????
> >>>>
> >>>> Garry
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
> >>>> news:ecH3pIPIHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> Leesten veeeery carefully.  I shall say theees only vonce!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Dim _f As New Form2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ' parent the form the the MDI Container
> >>>>>  _f.MdiParent = Me
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ' make the form fill the client area of the MDI Container
> >>>>>  For Each _c As Control In Controls
> >>>>>    If _c.GetType Is GetType(MdiClient) Then
> >>>>>      _f.Bounds = CType(_c, MdiClient).ClientRectangle
> >>>>>      Exit For
> >>>>>    End If
> >>>>>  Next
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  _f.Show()
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Et voila!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:uCoTCYEIHHA.4804@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> >Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
> >>>>>> Conservatism - an abominable affliction in a computer programmer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The problem is not the Startup but I will remember your comment if I
> >>>>>> do change back to frmMain as the start form.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have you solved the problem of sizing a child form to fit the MDI
> >>>>>> client rectangle BUT, the user must be able to move the form within
> >>>>>> the parent form.. My solution is not elegant and I wonder how other
> >>>>>> people solved it. Perhaps other programmers do not need to. I do not
> >>>>>> want the child maximised, thats too easy, I want the child to
> >>>>>> completely fill the available area and yet be 'moveable'.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I saw a solution to a forms collection in code with the Load event
> >>>>>> being used in each child form to add it to a User Defined forms
> >>>>>> collection. I have to consider this carefully. It was written for
> >>>>>> VS2003 and the article specifically states that the 'openforms' is
> >>>>>> available in 2005.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I say it again - things were so simple in VB6.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If only someone had uddated the VB6 GUI and come out with a non
> >>>>>> Microsoft VB7 with the improved intellisense on vb2005.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A DOTNET framework for Linux or Mackintosh has not materalised so
> >>>>>> that one of the much taunted features at the release of the .NET
> >>>>>> languages back in 2002 has not been realised. Garbage Collection is
> >>>>>> simply not mentioned any more. I am however, enjoying ADO.NET with
> >>>>>> SQLCE which has replaced my original Access database. Very fast.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, thanks for your answers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Garry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:F8qdnYO0iaq3pB_YnZ2dnUVZ_hy3nZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>>>> Unfortunately, I figured out MDI stuff by trial & error, and
> >>>>>>> the ones I've written are fairly simple.  I do have MacDonald's
> >>>>>>> Windows Forms book; it has some basic info on MDI, but not tons.
> >>>>>>> You could always search Google.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have the startup form for my project set to the parent form.
> >>>>>>> Why do you hesitate to have a form as your startup?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Robin S.
> >>>>>>> -------------------------------
> >>>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:%2372JBgAIHHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>> Ah Robin,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I just noticed that in the project Properties, Application tab, the
> >>>>>>>> 'enable application framework' checkbox is unchecked.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I did this to enable me to build an MDI application and use sub
> >>>>>>>> Main() as the starting point for the code.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There is very little clear info on building MDI applications as
> >>>>>>>> Microsoft presumably is not encouraging the MDI framework. (no
> >>>>>>>> internal support for INI files either in vb2005). Just try to
> >>>>>>>> resize an MDI child to fit the Client Rectangle in the parent form
> >>>>>>>> exactly. It was all so simple in VB6
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> However, I wonder if you could 'point' me to relevant and truly
> >>>>>>>> constructive info on MDI applications in VB2005 'cos I MAY have to
> >>>>>>>> redefine my application.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is there anything else that I may be missing from My.Application if
> >>>>>>>> I leave this checkbox unchecked????? I assume that this checkbox is
> >>>>>>>> the source of my present troubles.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I am re-writing completely from VB6, NOT converting and do not feel
> >>>>>>>> comfortable with the frmMain as the StartUp object.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One of the disadvantages of unchecking the checkbox is that when
> >>>>>>>> using Cntrl-Break to debug, the Sub Main() is always shown with the
> >>>>>>>> green line background on Application.Run(frmMain)..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Any clear suggestions would be much appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Garry
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:P4CdnVmUhu7b4hzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>>>>>>I hate to ask the obvious, but is it a Windows Forms application
> >>>>>>>>> that you're trying to use it in?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Robin S.
> >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> "Garry" <garrygrol***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:uHpO9r5HHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>>>> Why is it that my installation od vs2005 will not accept
> >>>>>>>>>> My.Application.OpenForms saying that it is not part of
> >>>>>>>>>> My.Application???
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Dim frm As Form
> >>>>>>>>>> For Each frm In My.Application.OpenForms
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Next frm
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Garry
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >