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GOOD BOOKS OF VB2005Hi friends, I am begginer , I wanna to learn VB2005 ,Which are good book for
to learn VB2005 of level -begginer-intermediate. Thanks you friends. Hi,
You might want to look at the MSDN site, there is an offer for two free books for learning Visual Basic 2005: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vbrun/ms788234.aspx And here is the direct link to "Introducing Microsoft Visual Basic 2005 for Developers": http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vbrun/ms788235.aspx It is a good introduction book for learning Visual Basic 2005 with various code samples. Regards, Plamen Ratchev http://www.SQLStudio.com Show quoteHide quote "TAVOSOFT" <u30299@uwe> wrote in message news:6adff78307980@uwe... > Hi friends, I am begginer , I wanna to learn VB2005 ,Which are good book > for > to learn VB2005 of level -begginer-intermediate. > Thanks you friends. > I'm starting into a book called Beginning Visual Basic 2005 by Thearon and
Newsome. Looks to have a lot of really good information in it and it doesn't appear to be too far over my head, so I should learn something from it. :) Maybe it'll help you as well. Show quoteHide quote "TAVOSOFT" <u30299@uwe> wrote in message news:6adff78307980@uwe... > Hi friends, I am begginer , I wanna to learn VB2005 ,Which are good book > for > to learn VB2005 of level -begginer-intermediate. > Thanks you friends. > Hey, I read that book. I liked it, but there were some, um, errors
in it. They don't have Option Strict On, and if you want to code with that (which generally you do), you have to learn how to use DirectCast and/or CType pretty early on. There are some other errors in it too; I recommend you read the Errata online, or you'll be vexed if you try to type in some of the examples. I picked up a lot more info from that book than I realized; most of it was definitely worth going through. After you read that one, check out Francesco Balena's "VB2005: The Language" -- it covers *only* the language, no forms, no data. It has some neat stuff in it. And for data, I recommend David Sceppa's ADO.Net book. Lots of examples, lots of code. Robin S. -------------------------------------------- Show quoteHide quote "Bruce W. Darby" <kra***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:gL6dnXqEsYm3KRnYnZ2dnUVZ_qyjnZ2d@comcast.com... > I'm starting into a book called Beginning Visual Basic 2005 by Thearon > and Newsome. Looks to have a lot of really good information in it and > it doesn't appear to be too far over my head, so I should learn > something from it. :) Maybe it'll help you as well. > > "TAVOSOFT" <u30299@uwe> wrote in message news:6adff78307980@uwe... >> Hi friends, I am begginer , I wanna to learn VB2005 ,Which are good >> book for >> to learn VB2005 of level -begginer-intermediate. >> Thanks you friends. >> > > Thanks Robin,
I actually started my .Net experience reading a couple of books by John Smiley. They are very basic beginners books, but they got my head wrapped around some of the ideas used in VB.Net. And when I tried to apply my .Net learning to an earlier book he had written on Objects, I realized that I need a LOT of help. :) I never go into a book any longer expecting it to be perfect. I like that as it then presents me with an opportunity to actually learn something about error correction. Hopefully, I'll be able to learn this stuff fast enough to be able to do some good things before I retire. :) Thanks again, Bruce P.S. I'll keep my eye out for those other two books you suggested Show quoteHide quote "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message news:BpmdnY0h36YrJxnYnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Hey, I read that book. I liked it, but there were some, um, errors > in it. They don't have Option Strict On, and if you want to code > with that (which generally you do), you have to learn how to use > DirectCast and/or CType pretty early on. There are some other > errors in it too; I recommend you read the Errata online, or you'll > be vexed if you try to type in some of the examples. I picked up a > lot more info from that book than I realized; most of it was > definitely worth going through. That's interesting. He doesn't have a 2005 version. At any rate,
they're probably too basic for me at this point. The book that really cemented it all for me was Deborah Kurata's "Doing Objects in VB2005". This talks about the 3-layer approach, how to set up the Business objects, binding them to the controls on the forms, and has a bunch of neat basic info that I see asked in this ng a lot, like how to save settings, how to iterate through controls, how to use code snippets, etc. Unfortunately, it's not generally available until March '07. I'm reading Tim Patrick's Start-to-Finish VB2005. It has a lot of information in it. There is a *huge* amount of code, and at times it's almost overwhelming. I can't work on it continuously, and since I didn't design the application he is building, I'm having a bit of trouble keeping the details in my mind, so I finally let that go, and am happily going through the rest of it. It's very readable, and will be something I come back to in the future for some keen examples of UI design and how-to information. It's different from other books in that you end up building an entire app -- sort of; you use code snippets to insert the code, and can then peruse it at your leisure. With Ms. Kurata's book, you also built an entire working app. It was not as full-featured as Mr. Patrick's, but really helped me understand classes, inheritance, and (as I said before), the 3-layer model. I haven't found any great books about WinForms, although the best book about data binding is by Brian Noyes. Unfortunately, it's in C#, although he has downloadable examples in VB. He has some great stuff in there, especially about the DataGridView, and the added benefit I got from it is that now I'm better at reading C#. ;-) Happy reading to all, and to all a good night! Robin S. ------------------------------------- Show quoteHide quote "Bruce W. Darby" <kra***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:lYudndYGD7wSXRnYnZ2dnUVZ_oGlnZ2d@comcast.com... > Thanks Robin, > > I actually started my .Net experience reading a couple of books by > John Smiley. They are very basic beginners books, but they got my head > wrapped around some of the ideas used in VB.Net. And when I tried to > apply my .Net learning to an earlier book he had written on Objects, I > realized that I need a LOT of help. :) I never go into a book any > longer expecting it to be perfect. I like that as it then presents me > with an opportunity to actually learn something about error > correction. Hopefully, I'll be able to learn this stuff fast enough to > be able to do some good things before I retire. :) > > Thanks again, > Bruce > > P.S. I'll keep my eye out for those other two books you suggested > > "RobinS" <RobinS@NoSpam.yah.none> wrote in message > news:BpmdnY0h36YrJxnYnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> Hey, I read that book. I liked it, but there were some, um, errors >> in it. They don't have Option Strict On, and if you want to code >> with that (which generally you do), you have to learn how to use >> DirectCast and/or CType pretty early on. There are some other >> errors in it too; I recommend you read the Errata online, or you'll >> be vexed if you try to type in some of the examples. I picked up a >> lot more info from that book than I realized; most of it was >> definitely worth going through. > > Hi Robin.
I am thinking to buy you book Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005: Learn Visual Basic 2005 as You Design and Develop a Complete Application. I wanna Knows if the application (the library) is complete and perfectly functional and free of errors? The design of the application is showed complete and step by step in the book ? Thanks you Gustavo from Colombia. RobinS wrote: Show quoteHide quote >That's interesting. He doesn't have a 2005 version. At any rate, >they're probably too basic for me at this point. > >The book that really cemented it all for me was Deborah Kurata's >"Doing Objects in VB2005". This talks about the 3-layer approach, >how to set up the Business objects, binding them to the controls >on the forms, and has a bunch of neat basic info that I see asked >in this ng a lot, like how to save settings, how to iterate >through controls, how to use code snippets, etc. Unfortunately, >it's not generally available until March '07. > >I'm reading Tim Patrick's Start-to-Finish VB2005. It has a lot >of information in it. There is a *huge* amount of code, and at >times it's almost overwhelming. I can't work on it continuously, >and since I didn't design the application he is building, I'm >having a bit of trouble keeping the details in my mind, so I >finally let that go, and am happily going through the rest of >it. It's very readable, and will be something I come back to >in the future for some keen examples of UI design and how-to >information. It's different from other books in that you end >up building an entire app -- sort of; you use code snippets to >insert the code, and can then peruse it at your leisure. > >With Ms. Kurata's book, you also built an entire working app. >It was not as full-featured as Mr. Patrick's, but really helped >me understand classes, inheritance, and (as I said before), the >3-layer model. > >I haven't found any great books about WinForms, although the >best book about data binding is by Brian Noyes. Unfortunately, >it's in C#, although he has downloadable examples in VB. He >has some great stuff in there, especially about the DataGridView, >and the added benefit I got from it is that now I'm better at >reading C#. ;-) > >Happy reading to all, and to all a good night! > >Robin S. >------------------------------------- > >> Thanks Robin, >> >[quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>> lot more info from that book than I realized; most of it was >>> definitely worth going through. -- Message posted via DotNetMonster.com http://www.dotnetmonster.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/dotnet-vb-net/200612/1 (Also posted in microsoft.public.dotnet.general).
I think the book is really good. I'm in chapter 18 (3/4 of the way through the book, about 90%+ of the code done, according to the author). (I'm reading a couple of other books at the same time, and my head may explode any day now.) I think the book explains most things well. It has a lot of humor in it, which makes it a lot less dry than other books. There is a *lot* of code. The author has you use code snippets to add the code, which is clever. I sort of wish he would explain more. For example, in the GDI+ chapter, he shows a lot of commands to create stuff, but doesn't explain what all the parameters mean. On the other hand, it is easily looked up in MSDN. So far, I have only found one error, and it was in some sample code where he shows how to put graphics in a ComboBox, not in the actual project code. The only problem with it was he needed to cast a couple of calculated values to Single, so it was easy to fix. The only problem I've had with his code is that the screens draw funny on my computer. Some of them are chopped off at the bottom. I'm going to post a question about that to the dotnet.windowforms newsgroup as soon as I get around to it. The author said neither he nor any of the tech reviewers had that problem, so in all likelihood it's something about my display settings. The only other "issue" one might have with the book is that it doesn't follow the n-layer design methodology, and doesn't always follow standard practices, like in the naming of the controls. On the other hand, you might argue that as long as an entire application follows its own standards consistently, that's okay. It might be that that's okay for small business desktop applications. Aside from this, there's still a lot of good information in the book. Overall, I'd have to say I learned a lot from reading the book, and will come back to it in the future. I'm kind of impatient, so I didn't stop to figure out every single line of code that was added to the project; I figured I could come back to those sections when I needed to in the future. It's important to know what the possibilities are, so I can use those ideas in designing future applications. I can always look up the details. My two cents' worth. Robin S. ------------------------------------------------ "TAVOSOFT via DotNetMonster.com" <u30299@uwe> wrote in message news:6b5c1286f9048@uwe...Show quoteHide quote > Hi Robin. > > I am thinking to buy you book Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005: Learn > Visual > Basic 2005 as You Design and Develop a Complete Application. > > I wanna Knows if the application (the library) is complete and > perfectly > functional and free of errors? > > The design of the application is showed complete and step by step in > the book > ? > > Thanks you > > Gustavo from Colombia. > > > RobinS wrote: >>That's interesting. He doesn't have a 2005 version. At any rate, >>they're probably too basic for me at this point. >> >>The book that really cemented it all for me was Deborah Kurata's >>"Doing Objects in VB2005". This talks about the 3-layer approach, >>how to set up the Business objects, binding them to the controls >>on the forms, and has a bunch of neat basic info that I see asked >>in this ng a lot, like how to save settings, how to iterate >>through controls, how to use code snippets, etc. Unfortunately, >>it's not generally available until March '07. >> >>I'm reading Tim Patrick's Start-to-Finish VB2005. It has a lot >>of information in it. There is a *huge* amount of code, and at >>times it's almost overwhelming. I can't work on it continuously, >>and since I didn't design the application he is building, I'm >>having a bit of trouble keeping the details in my mind, so I >>finally let that go, and am happily going through the rest of >>it. It's very readable, and will be something I come back to >>in the future for some keen examples of UI design and how-to >>information. It's different from other books in that you end >>up building an entire app -- sort of; you use code snippets to >>insert the code, and can then peruse it at your leisure. >> >>With Ms. Kurata's book, you also built an entire working app. >>It was not as full-featured as Mr. Patrick's, but really helped >>me understand classes, inheritance, and (as I said before), the >>3-layer model. >> >>I haven't found any great books about WinForms, although the >>best book about data binding is by Brian Noyes. Unfortunately, >>it's in C#, although he has downloadable examples in VB. He >>has some great stuff in there, especially about the DataGridView, >>and the added benefit I got from it is that now I'm better at >>reading C#. ;-) >> >>Happy reading to all, and to all a good night! >> >>Robin S. >>------------------------------------- >> >>> Thanks Robin, >>> >>[quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>>> lot more info from that book than I realized; most of it was >>>> definitely worth going through. > > -- > Message posted via DotNetMonster.com > http://www.dotnetmonster.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/dotnet-vb-net/200612/1 > 
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