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Launching Web site for helpI've decided to store my help pages on a web site rather than deliver with
my application (trying to reduce the size of the install files). The web site is sort of all ready to rock and roll. How from VB.net do I launch an internet explorer window, but making the window menuless, button and address bar less etc) and open the url for the help pages? I can see from the command line how to run internet explorer in "kiosk" mode, but I don't want to go that far! Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Simon,
A simple advice, store you pages in a database and use for the key a GUID. We have forever done it that way, we see it now done by Microsoft as well (not that we intend that they got this from us) It preserves that if you reorganise your website the reference (url) stays forever the same. Cor Show quoteHide quote "Simon Verona" <x*@xx.com> schreef in bericht news:%23mR5fMQKHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I've decided to store my help pages on a web site rather than deliver with > my application (trying to reduce the size of the install files). > > The web site is sort of all ready to rock and roll. > > How from VB.net do I launch an internet explorer window, but making the > window menuless, button and address bar less etc) and open the url for the > help pages? > > I can see from the command line how to run internet explorer in "kiosk" > mode, but I don't want to go that far! > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance > "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schrieb: I don't see how reorganizing a website would break existing URIs if no > A simple advice, store you pages in a database and use for the key a GUID. > > We have forever done it that way, we see it now done by Microsoft as well > (not that we intend that they got this from us) > > It preserves that if you reorganise your website the reference (url) stays > forever the same. database and GUIDs were used. Personally I prefer meaningful URIs over URIs containing unmeaningful numbers such as GUIDs. -- M S Herfried K. Wagner M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/> V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/> Herfried,
I can only say, try it Cor Show quoteHide quote "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-here@gmx.at> schreef in bericht news:%23fCB6OSKHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schrieb: >> A simple advice, store you pages in a database and use for the key a >> GUID. >> >> We have forever done it that way, we see it now done by Microsoft as well >> (not that we intend that they got this from us) >> >> It preserves that if you reorganise your website the reference (url) >> stays forever the same. > > I don't see how reorganizing a website would break existing URIs if no > database and GUIDs were used. Personally I prefer meaningful URIs over > URIs containing unmeaningful numbers such as GUIDs. > > -- > M S Herfried K. Wagner > M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/> > V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/> Cor,
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schrieb: The main problem is changing identifiers, but I do not see many valid > I can only say, try it reasons to change an URI after the resource has been published. And if there was a valid reason to change an URI, it's a simple task to add a redirection from the old address to the new address. For those understanding German, I have written an article on choosing "good" URIs (<URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/web/articles/uri/>). -- M S Herfried K. Wagner M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/> V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/> Herfried,
I did not read everything, however I have the idea that the URI has only one goal. To find back what is written. Therefore most websites can do it as it is standard in ASP withouth an URL per page. Only when you have to reference direct a page a complete URL is needed. In fact a key as any other key. The discussion if a key should be meaningful is already decenia ago won by "don't make it meaningful". Except on the place were you (not really convincing) Guid you tell that you would not use it. For the rest it seemed for me a kind of documentation why you should use the GUID. Moreover because that the Guid can be used direct in a SQL server has that even an extra point. However time will learn. Cor Show quoteHide quote "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-here@gmx.at> schreef in bericht news:O1i48WbKHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Cor, > > "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> schrieb: >> I can only say, try it > > The main problem is changing identifiers, but I do not see many valid > reasons to change an URI after the resource has been published. And if > there was a valid reason to change an URI, it's a simple task to add a > redirection from the old address to the new address. > > For those understanding German, I have written an article on choosing > "good" URIs (<URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/web/articles/uri/>). > > -- > M S Herfried K. Wagner > M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/> > V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/> Simon Verona wrote:
> I've decided to store my help pages on a web site rather than deliver with <snip>> my application (trying to reduce the size of the install files). > > The web site is sort of all ready to rock and roll. > > How from VB.net do I launch an internet explorer window, but making the > window menuless, button and address bar less etc) and open the url for the > help pages? > > I can see from the command line how to run internet explorer in "kiosk" > mode, but I don't want to go that far! If you'd accept a suggestion from a user perspective, here it goes: please, don't do that. Don't mess with the browser window. Put yourself in your users place and you'll see that launching IE windows without the usual interface elements is annoying, unprofessional, even rude. Besides, the angry user (I'm speaking from myself) would just Ctrl+N the menuless/address bar-less/whatever-less window and completely defeat your original purposes -- which were...? If you want to show a web page/site to the user and don't want to relinquish control of the browser window, roll your own window by hosting the WebBrowser control (you'd need VB 2005 to do that). If you really want to open a browser window pointing to your home page, you may launch the *address* and let the system pick up the correct browser (IE, Firefox, Opera, or whatever browser the user has set up as default): <aircode> Imports SysDiag = System.Diagnostics '... '... Dim P As SysDiag.Process Try P = SysDiag.Process.Start("http://www.yoursiteaddr.com") Catch Ex As Exception '... End Try '... </aircode> HTH. Regards, Branco. Branco,
> With the AxWebbrowser it is even easier, however that does not deploy so > If you want to show a web page/site to the user and don't want to > relinquish control of the browser window, roll your own window by > hosting the WebBrowser control (you'd need VB 2005 to do that). > nice as the WebBrowser. Just as addition the rest I agree with you. Cor Thanks for the thoughts...
Cor - your's were slightly off my topic, but are useful none-the-less. Regards Simon Show quoteHide quote "Branco Medeiros" <branco.medei***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1167157040.565512.23430@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com... > > Simon Verona wrote: >> I've decided to store my help pages on a web site rather than deliver >> with >> my application (trying to reduce the size of the install files). >> >> The web site is sort of all ready to rock and roll. >> >> How from VB.net do I launch an internet explorer window, but making the >> window menuless, button and address bar less etc) and open the url for >> the >> help pages? >> >> I can see from the command line how to run internet explorer in "kiosk" >> mode, but I don't want to go that far! > <snip> > > If you'd accept a suggestion from a user perspective, here it goes: > please, don't do that. Don't mess with the browser window. > > Put yourself in your users place and you'll see that launching IE > windows without the usual interface elements is annoying, > unprofessional, even rude. Besides, the angry user (I'm speaking from > myself) would just Ctrl+N the menuless/address bar-less/whatever-less > window and completely defeat your original purposes -- which were...? > > If you want to show a web page/site to the user and don't want to > relinquish control of the browser window, roll your own window by > hosting the WebBrowser control (you'd need VB 2005 to do that). > > If you really want to open a browser window pointing to your home page, > you may launch the *address* and let the system pick up the correct > browser (IE, Firefox, Opera, or whatever browser the user has set up as > default): > > <aircode> > Imports SysDiag = System.Diagnostics > '... > '... > Dim P As SysDiag.Process > Try > P = SysDiag.Process.Start("http://www.yoursiteaddr.com") > Catch Ex As Exception > '... > End Try > '... > </aircode> > > HTH. > > Regards, > > Branco. > Simon it was based on this part of your question.
>Any suggestions? CorShow quoteHide quote "Simon Verona" <x*@xx.com> schreef in bericht news:eATIUCUKHHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Thanks for the thoughts... > > Cor - your's were slightly off my topic, but are useful none-the-less. > > Regards > Simon > "Branco Medeiros" <branco.medei***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1167157040.565512.23430@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com... >> >> Simon Verona wrote: >>> I've decided to store my help pages on a web site rather than deliver >>> with >>> my application (trying to reduce the size of the install files). >>> >>> The web site is sort of all ready to rock and roll. >>> >>> How from VB.net do I launch an internet explorer window, but making the >>> window menuless, button and address bar less etc) and open the url for >>> the >>> help pages? >>> >>> I can see from the command line how to run internet explorer in "kiosk" >>> mode, but I don't want to go that far! >> <snip> >> >> If you'd accept a suggestion from a user perspective, here it goes: >> please, don't do that. Don't mess with the browser window. >> >> Put yourself in your users place and you'll see that launching IE >> windows without the usual interface elements is annoying, >> unprofessional, even rude. Besides, the angry user (I'm speaking from >> myself) would just Ctrl+N the menuless/address bar-less/whatever-less >> window and completely defeat your original purposes -- which were...? >> >> If you want to show a web page/site to the user and don't want to >> relinquish control of the browser window, roll your own window by >> hosting the WebBrowser control (you'd need VB 2005 to do that). >> >> If you really want to open a browser window pointing to your home page, >> you may launch the *address* and let the system pick up the correct >> browser (IE, Firefox, Opera, or whatever browser the user has set up as >> default): >> >> <aircode> >> Imports SysDiag = System.Diagnostics >> '... >> '... >> Dim P As SysDiag.Process >> Try >> P = SysDiag.Process.Start("http://www.yoursiteaddr.com") >> Catch Ex As Exception >> '... >> End Try >> '... >> </aircode> >> >> HTH. >> >> Regards, >> >> Branco. >> > > OK... well thanks for the suggestion...
Regards Simon Show quoteHide quote "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstn***@planet.nl> wrote in message news:uqLCafVKHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Simon it was based on this part of your question. > >>Any suggestions? > > Cor > > "Simon Verona" <x*@xx.com> schreef in bericht > news:eATIUCUKHHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Thanks for the thoughts... >> >> Cor - your's were slightly off my topic, but are useful none-the-less. >> >> Regards >> Simon >> "Branco Medeiros" <branco.medei***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1167157040.565512.23430@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> Simon Verona wrote: >>>> I've decided to store my help pages on a web site rather than deliver >>>> with >>>> my application (trying to reduce the size of the install files). >>>> >>>> The web site is sort of all ready to rock and roll. >>>> >>>> How from VB.net do I launch an internet explorer window, but making the >>>> window menuless, button and address bar less etc) and open the url for >>>> the >>>> help pages? >>>> >>>> I can see from the command line how to run internet explorer in "kiosk" >>>> mode, but I don't want to go that far! >>> <snip> >>> >>> If you'd accept a suggestion from a user perspective, here it goes: >>> please, don't do that. Don't mess with the browser window. >>> >>> Put yourself in your users place and you'll see that launching IE >>> windows without the usual interface elements is annoying, >>> unprofessional, even rude. Besides, the angry user (I'm speaking from >>> myself) would just Ctrl+N the menuless/address bar-less/whatever-less >>> window and completely defeat your original purposes -- which were...? >>> >>> If you want to show a web page/site to the user and don't want to >>> relinquish control of the browser window, roll your own window by >>> hosting the WebBrowser control (you'd need VB 2005 to do that). >>> >>> If you really want to open a browser window pointing to your home page, >>> you may launch the *address* and let the system pick up the correct >>> browser (IE, Firefox, Opera, or whatever browser the user has set up as >>> default): >>> >>> <aircode> >>> Imports SysDiag = System.Diagnostics >>> '... >>> '... >>> Dim P As SysDiag.Process >>> Try >>> P = SysDiag.Process.Start("http://www.yoursiteaddr.com") >>> Catch Ex As Exception >>> '... >>> End Try >>> '... >>> </aircode> >>> >>> HTH. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Branco. >>> >> >> > > 
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