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Device Mgr. mistakes wireless card for PCI deviceI have an HP Laptop that will not recognize a wireless adapter. When I try
to install a wireless device (have tried several) the device manager identifies it as a PCI device instead of a network adapter as it should. Having recognized it as a PCI it will not recognize the correct drivers to finish installation. I have tried the cards on my xp laptop and all have worked. One of the cards that I am trying to install worked previously on this machine. Client complained that it stopped working. I wrestled with it for a while and then wiped and recovered with fresh and updated install of Win2Kpro. I did this to eliminate any possibilities of malware that might be causing me the grief. Any thoughts? Please! Check with the manufacturer of this device for a digitally signed Windows
2000 specific device driver for the device. Run the Update Driver wizard using the Update Driver button, but do not let Windows 2000 automatically detect devices. Instead, click Have Disk when prompted, and manually point the wizard to the appropriate driver. -- Show quoteHide quoteRegards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "Howie J." wrote: |I have an HP Laptop that will not recognize a wireless adapter. When I try | to install a wireless device (have tried several) the device manager | identifies it as a PCI device instead of a network adapter as it should. | Having recognized it as a PCI it will not recognize the correct drivers to | finish installation. I have tried the cards on my xp laptop and all have | worked. | | One of the cards that I am trying to install worked previously on this | machine. Client complained that it stopped working. I wrestled with it for | a while and then wiped and recovered with fresh and updated install of | Win2Kpro. I did this to eliminate any possibilities of malware that might be | causing me the grief. | | Any thoughts? Please! Dave, you are somewhat missing the pint of my problem. I have tried
installing drivers a dozen times over using every different method I can imagine; different versions of drivers, different cards from another manufacturer. I have also been on the phone with SMC technical support for two different versions of their cards with no resolution. I have tried known working d-link cards as well. What is happening here, for sake of comparison; when I install a new card into my xp laptop, the device manager sees it as a network adapter and allows the installation of drivers. When I install any of the same cards to the Win2K laptop, the device manager sees the new card as a PCI device and henceforth will not allow the installation of drivers. My question to the forum is, is this normal behavior for Win2K to see a 802.11b card as a PCI device? Even if it is recognized incorrectly would this hinder the installation of drivers? Another question for you Dave. This laptop's OS is installed allong with many proprietory applications using a ghost image. (The laptop is used for diagnosing malfunctions on heavy equip) Can I do an upgrade to WinXP without wiping the applications on the pc? I know they (the apps) will work with xp but have never tried an upgrade from one OS to the other. Show quoteHide quote "Dave Patrick" wrote: > Check with the manufacturer of this device for a digitally signed Windows > 2000 specific device driver for the device. Run the Update Driver wizard > using the Update Driver button, but do not let Windows 2000 automatically > detect devices. Instead, click Have Disk when prompted, and manually point > the wizard to the appropriate driver. > > -- > Regards, > > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. > Microsoft Certified Professional > Microsoft MVP [Windows] > http://www.microsoft.com/protect > > "Howie J." wrote: > |I have an HP Laptop that will not recognize a wireless adapter. When I try > | to install a wireless device (have tried several) the device manager > | identifies it as a PCI device instead of a network adapter as it should. > | Having recognized it as a PCI it will not recognize the correct drivers to > | finish installation. I have tried the cards on my xp laptop and all have > | worked. > | > | One of the cards that I am trying to install worked previously on this > | machine. Client complained that it stopped working. I wrestled with it > for > | a while and then wiped and recovered with fresh and updated install of > | Win2Kpro. I did this to eliminate any possibilities of malware that might > be > | causing me the grief. > | > | Any thoughts? Please! > > > "Howie J." wrote: * The pint I'm missing is; you've told us nothing more than "it will not | Dave, you are somewhat missing the pint of my problem. I have tried | installing drivers a dozen times over using every different method I can | imagine; different versions of drivers, different cards from another | manufacturer. I have also been on the phone with SMC technical support for | two different versions of their cards with no resolution. I have tried known | working d-link cards as well. recognize the correct drivers" | What is happening here, for sake of comparison; when I install a new card * Yes it is normal. In this case normally you can right click on the 'bang' | into my xp laptop, the device manager sees it as a network adapter and allows | the installation of drivers. When I install any of the same cards to the | Win2K laptop, the device manager sees the new card as a PCI device and | henceforth will not allow the installation of drivers. My question to the | forum is, is this normal behavior for Win2K to see a 802.11b card as a PCI | device? Even if it is recognized incorrectly would this hinder the | installation of drivers? device and choose 'Update Driver', then at some point choose 'Have Disk' | Another question for you Dave. This laptop's OS is installed allong with * Yes, it works. Start the upgrade process from Windows 2000. Be sure to | many proprietory applications using a ghost image. (The laptop is used for | diagnosing malfunctions on heavy equip) Can I do an upgrade to WinXP without | wiping the applications on the pc? I know they (the apps) will work with xp | but have never tried an upgrade from one OS to the other. have on hand the normal backups of any data. For all applications installed check the application developers web site for instructions or release notes on upgrading the operating system. -- Regards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect Dave, thanks for your patience with me!
"Dave Patrick" wrote: * The pint I'm missing is; you've told us nothing more than "it will not > recognize the correct drivers I do not know what more you would need here, but I will elaborate as best I can. I have the originall drivers for these devices on cd and have also downloaded updated drivers for these devices from the manufacturer's website. I have attempted to install the drivers by using the "have disk" function and pointing to extracted driver folders or the appropriate folder on the cd. In all cases that I have tried I recieve the error that windows cannot find a driver for the device and it will not function. As I said before I have gone throught this with the techs at SMC with no resolution. They seem to believe that the OS is recognizing the card incorrectly as a PCI device and that is my problem. I am asking now for your opinion if you agree with them? Do I have a hardware issue? It cannot be the cards as they work on my xp mache. Or is this normal for Win2k to recognize such a card as a PCI device instead of a network adapter? Show quoteHide quote > "Howie J." wrote: > | Dave, you are somewhat missing the pint of my problem. I have tried > | installing drivers a dozen times over using every different method I can > | imagine; different versions of drivers, different cards from another > | manufacturer. I have also been on the phone with SMC technical support > for > | two different versions of their cards with no resolution. I have tried > known > | working d-link cards as well. > * The pint I'm missing is; you've told us nothing more than "it will not > recognize the correct drivers" > > > | What is happening here, for sake of comparison; when I install a new card > | into my xp laptop, the device manager sees it as a network adapter and > allows > | the installation of drivers. When I install any of the same cards to the > | Win2K laptop, the device manager sees the new card as a PCI device and > | henceforth will not allow the installation of drivers. My question to > the > | forum is, is this normal behavior for Win2K to see a 802.11b card as a PCI > | device? Even if it is recognized incorrectly would this hinder the > | installation of drivers? > * Yes it is normal. In this case normally you can right click on the 'bang' > device and choose 'Update Driver', then at some point choose 'Have Disk' > > > | Another question for you Dave. This laptop's OS is installed allong with > | many proprietory applications using a ghost image. (The laptop is used > for > | diagnosing malfunctions on heavy equip) Can I do an upgrade to WinXP > without > | wiping the applications on the pc? I know they (the apps) will work with > xp > | but have never tried an upgrade from one OS to the other. > * Yes, it works. Start the upgrade process from Windows 2000. Be sure to > have on hand the normal backups of any data. For all applications installed > check the application developers web site for instructions or release notes > on upgrading the operating system. > > > -- > Regards, > > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. > Microsoft Certified Professional > Microsoft MVP [Windows] > http://www.microsoft.com/protect > > > If you believe the device is not connected to the pci bus then the system
bios may need to be upgraded. Check with the laptop manufacturer on this. -- Show quoteHide quoteRegards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "Howie J." wrote: | Dave, thanks for your patience with me! | * The pint I'm missing is; you've told us nothing more than "it will not | > recognize the correct drivers | | I do not know what more you would need here, but I will elaborate as best I | can. | | I have the originall drivers for these devices on cd and have also | downloaded updated drivers for these devices from the manufacturer's website. | | | I have attempted to install the drivers by using the "have disk" function | and pointing to extracted driver folders or the appropriate folder on the cd. | In all cases that I have tried I recieve the error that windows cannot find | a driver for the device and it will not function. As I said before I have | gone throught this with the techs at SMC with no resolution. They seem to | believe that the OS is recognizing the card incorrectly as a PCI device and | that is my problem. I am asking now for your opinion if you agree with them? | Do I have a hardware issue? It cannot be the cards as they work on my xp | mache. Or is this normal for | Win2k to recognize such a card as a PCI device instead of a network adapter? Dang, have flashed bios.
New problem!!! Tried another card and system recognized it as an adapter (Yahoo!) Driver loaded but now have new problem. Device will not start because it cannot find enough free resources (error code 12). Searched Microsoft and found they recommend that OS might be a problem or bios. I think I will now try to move this OS to winxp and see if I can resolve this. BTW, I disabled as many unused devices as I could, including the onboard nic to gain resources, no resolution. If you can spare me one more response regarding this error before I upgrade OS I would apprieciate it. Show quoteHide quote "Dave Patrick" wrote: > If you believe the device is not connected to the pci bus then the system > bios may need to be upgraded. Check with the laptop manufacturer on this. > > -- > Regards, > > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. > Microsoft Certified Professional > Microsoft MVP [Windows] > http://www.microsoft.com/protect > > "Howie J." wrote: > | Dave, thanks for your patience with me! > | * The pint I'm missing is; you've told us nothing more than "it will not > | > recognize the correct drivers > | > | I do not know what more you would need here, but I will elaborate as best > I > | can. > | > | I have the originall drivers for these devices on cd and have also > | downloaded updated drivers for these devices from the manufacturer's > website. > | > | > | I have attempted to install the drivers by using the "have disk" function > | and pointing to extracted driver folders or the appropriate folder on the > cd. > | In all cases that I have tried I recieve the error that windows cannot > find > | a driver for the device and it will not function. As I said before I have > | gone throught this with the techs at SMC with no resolution. They seem to > | believe that the OS is recognizing the card incorrectly as a PCI device > and > | that is my problem. I am asking now for your opinion if you agree with > them? > | Do I have a hardware issue? It cannot be the cards as they work on my xp > | mache. Or is this normal for > | Win2k to recognize such a card as a PCI device instead of a network > adapter? > > > This one may also help.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=244601 The laptop may be non-ACPI system. If this is the case Windows XP won't help the situation. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=252420 For the code 12; In the same properties page where the error message occurs, click the Resources tab. Windows 2000 attempts to flag the associated device that is in conflict with the device in question. You should avoid manually assigning resources in a Plug and Play system, because this can create potential problems in the future as Plug and Play attempts to do its job at a later time. Either disable or remove the device that is in conflict to see if the device reporting the error message starts. You can then add the device you removed back into the system and see if the device can take new resources on its own. The following information describes how this may occur: Plug and Play attempts to automatically assign resources to devices. It examines a "form" that defines the resources that a device can use and draws its choices from that list. In that same form (actually a structure in the configuration memory space of the device) is a list of resources that the device prefers to use. When two devices contain identical "preferred" settings, something commonly referred to as "resource affinity" occurs. Devices fight for possession of a specific resource, which causes a deadlock. A similar situation is created by resource dependency configurations. In that same form mentioned earlier, devices may define resource dependencies. For example, "If this device is assigned x IRQ, then use y I/O port address." The dependent resource may be in conflict with another device causing a failure. Disabling the working (but conflicting) device changes the order of enumeration and may force the other device to take on new settings that are not in conflict. This behavior occurs more often in Windows 95/98 where device enumeration occurs in a specific order, whereas Windows 2000 multithreads enumeration enumerates all device at once. Although multithreading helps to alleviate this problem, it may not resolve the problem. If the procedures outlined here do not resolve the problem, check for updated device drivers from the manufacturer before attempting to manually assign resources to the device. Sometimes Windows 2000 cannot detect which device is actually in conflict. This behavior can occur because errors in the IRQ routing tables or I/O port conflicts are created by an improperly configured PCI-to-ISA bridge. Complete coverage of each of these concepts is outside the scope of this article. The most common method for resolving this problem is to update the system BIOS. On non-ACPI systems, you may be able to select an alternate IRQ routing table source. Refer to the Microsoft Knowledge Base for articles explaining IRQ routing in Windows 2000 and how to edit the registry to select an alternate method. Because the most common resolution in any system BIOS update is to resolve error messages in IRQ routing, you should resolve this problem by checking with the manufacturer of the device for an updated system BIOS. This behavior may also occur because of irresolvable conflicts in an ISA/PCI mixed environment. The ISA bus is not designed with Plug and Play in mind. Because of this, the PCI bus has no reliable way of detecting the resource settings of ISA devices. Try removing any unneeded ISA devices in the system to see if the device in question properly configures itself. If this works, check the System Information tool for free resources and set the ISA device for the appropriate configuration. In the case of a Plug and Play ISA device, try replacing the device in an alternate ISA slot. If this does not resolve the issue, check with the manufacturer for a digitally signed Windows 2000 device driver for the ISA device. You can also try starting into the system BIOS and setting the resources for the ISA device as Reserved by (or for) ISA. This action may manually remove the use of the resource in question from the Plug and Play equation. If none of these recommendations resolves the problem, you may have to find a PCI version of the ISA device. -- Show quoteHide quoteRegards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "Howie J." wrote: | Dang, have flashed bios. | | New problem!!! | | Tried another card and system recognized it as an adapter (Yahoo!) Driver | loaded but now have new problem. Device will not start because it cannot | find enough free resources (error code 12). Searched Microsoft and found | they recommend that OS might be a problem or bios. I think I will now try to | move this OS to winxp and see if I can resolve this. BTW, I disabled as many | unused devices as I could, including the onboard nic to gain resources, no | resolution. If you can spare me one more response regarding this error | before I upgrade OS I would apprieciate it.
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An anomylous file on my desktop Possible upgrade? "called name not present", 'net use' redirection? W2K SP4 removed successfully but it still shows SP4 RPC Server unavailable The Fax thingy Hard hang on Start->Settings->Printers Start/Program button 2000 Terminal Server log in problem |
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