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15 Apr 2009 11:07 PM
ms
I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders under
Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a Startup menu.

I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main headings that
related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I expected to see the icons of
the running programs in the System Tray.

Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start Menu to
modify?

ms

Author
15 Apr 2009 11:31 PM
John John (MVP)
The programs can be running without necessarily having an icon in the
Notification Area (what you call the System Tray).  Did you look in the
Task Manager to see if the programs were running?  The programs should
start if you put them in the Startup folder under your UserName or in
the "All Users" Startup folder.

John

ms wrote:
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> I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders under
> Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a Startup menu.
>
> I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main headings that
> related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I expected to see the icons of
> the running programs in the System Tray.
>
> Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start Menu to
> modify?
>
> ms
Author
16 Apr 2009 5:58 PM
ms
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"John John (MVP)" <audetw***@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in
news:OUtqCJivJHA.192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> The programs can be running without necessarily having an icon in the
> Notification Area (what you call the System Tray).  Did you look in
> the Task Manager to see if the programs were running?  The programs
> should start if you put them in the Startup folder under your UserName
> or in the "All Users" Startup folder.
>
> John
>
> ms wrote:
>> I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders
>> under Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a
>> Startup menu.
>>
>> I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main headings
>> that related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I expected to see
>> the icons of the running programs in the System Tray.
>>
>> Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start
>> Menu to modify?
>>
>> ms
>

I looked in Task Manager, not there. I tried in All Users, no luck.

I moved the shortcuts to the Startup folder in All Users.Winnt. Now it
works and the icons appear in the System Tray (maybe I still use W98
terminology).

I will probably post some more messages, as I succeeded in reinstalling the
OS, but lost all my previous settings, so back to where I was 4 years ago,
and with memory issues as a senior, that will be fun.

Thanks

ms
Author
16 Apr 2009 6:39 PM
John John (MVP)
ms wrote:
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> "John John (MVP)" <audetw***@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in
> news:OUtqCJivJHA.192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> The programs can be running without necessarily having an icon in the
>> Notification Area (what you call the System Tray).  Did you look in
>> the Task Manager to see if the programs were running?  The programs
>> should start if you put them in the Startup folder under your UserName
>> or in the "All Users" Startup folder.
>>
>> John
>>
>> ms wrote:
>>> I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders
>>> under Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a
>>> Startup menu.
>>>
>>> I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main headings
>>> that related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I expected to see
>>> the icons of the running programs in the System Tray.
>>>
>>> Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start
>>> Menu to modify?
>>>
>>> ms
>
> I looked in Task Manager, not there. I tried in All Users, no luck.
>
> I moved the shortcuts to the Startup folder in All Users.Winnt. Now it
> works and the icons appear in the System Tray (maybe I still use W98
> terminology).
>
> I will probably post some more messages, as I succeeded in reinstalling the
> OS, but lost all my previous settings, so back to where I was 4 years ago,
> and with memory issues as a senior, that will be fun.

I don't know what you mean by "All Users.Winnt" but I think that your
reinstall may have been borked, unless you upgraded to Windows 2000 from
NT 4 you will not find the profile folders in the WINNT directory, they
will be in the Documents and Settings folder.

John
Author
17 Apr 2009 2:02 PM
ms
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"John John (MVP)" <audetw***@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in
news:#hw3mKsvJHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> ms wrote:
>> "John John (MVP)" <audetw***@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in
>> news:OUtqCJivJHA.192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> The programs can be running without necessarily having an icon in
>>> the Notification Area (what you call the System Tray).  Did you look
>>> in the Task Manager to see if the programs were running?  The
>>> programs should start if you put them in the Startup folder under
>>> your UserName or in the "All Users" Startup folder.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> ms wrote:
>>>> I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different
>>>> folders under Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each
>>>> has a Startup menu.
>>>>
>>>> I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main
>>>> headings that related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I
>>>> expected to see the icons of the running programs in the System
>>>> Tray.
>>>>
>>>> Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start
>>>> Menu to modify?
>>>>
>>>> ms
>>
>> I looked in Task Manager, not there. I tried in All Users, no luck.
>>
>> I moved the shortcuts to the Startup folder in All Users.Winnt. Now
>> it works and the icons appear in the System Tray (maybe I still use
>> W98 terminology).
>>
>> I will probably post some more messages, as I succeeded in
>> reinstalling the OS, but lost all my previous settings, so back to
>> where I was 4 years ago, and with memory issues as a senior, that
>> will be fun.
>
> I don't know what you mean by "All Users.Winnt" but I think that your
> reinstall may have been borked, unless you upgraded to Windows 2000
> from NT 4 you will not find the profile folders in the WINNT
> directory, they will be in the Documents and Settings folder.
>
> John
>


My install was AFAIK, a normal, uneventful install.

Under Documents and Settings, are 4 different User folders. One of them is
All Users.Winnt, that is the only one where the shortcuts worked.

Are you saying All Users.Winnt is not a usual folder under Documents and
Settings?

ms
Author
17 Apr 2009 2:23 PM
John John (MVP)
ms wrote:
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> "John John (MVP)" <audetw***@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in
> news:#hw3mKsvJHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> ms wrote:
>>> "John John (MVP)" <audetw***@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in
>>> news:OUtqCJivJHA.192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>>>
>>>> The programs can be running without necessarily having an icon in
>>>> the Notification Area (what you call the System Tray).  Did you look
>>>> in the Task Manager to see if the programs were running?  The
>>>> programs should start if you put them in the Startup folder under
>>>> your UserName or in the "All Users" Startup folder.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> ms wrote:
>>>>> I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different
>>>>> folders under Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each
>>>>> has a Startup menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main
>>>>> headings that related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I
>>>>> expected to see the icons of the running programs in the System
>>>>> Tray.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start
>>>>> Menu to modify?
>>>>>
>>>>> ms
>>> I looked in Task Manager, not there. I tried in All Users, no luck.
>>>
>>> I moved the shortcuts to the Startup folder in All Users.Winnt. Now
>>> it works and the icons appear in the System Tray (maybe I still use
>>> W98 terminology).
>>>
>>> I will probably post some more messages, as I succeeded in
>>> reinstalling the OS, but lost all my previous settings, so back to
>>> where I was 4 years ago, and with memory issues as a senior, that
>>> will be fun.
>> I don't know what you mean by "All Users.Winnt" but I think that your
>> reinstall may have been borked, unless you upgraded to Windows 2000
>> from NT 4 you will not find the profile folders in the WINNT
>> directory, they will be in the Documents and Settings folder.
>>
>> John
>>
>
>
> My install was AFAIK, a normal, uneventful install.
>
> Under Documents and Settings, are 4 different User folders. One of them is
> All Users.Winnt, that is the only one where the shortcuts worked.
>
> Are you saying All Users.Winnt is not a usual folder under Documents and
> Settings?

That is an unusual folder, the .Winnt appendage is not to be expected on
a clean installation, and I don't know of any normal circumstances where
..winnt would be a appended to any of the profile folders, unless you
renamed this folder this is a bit strange.  Also, there is no reason why
on a clean install the shortcuts would work in the All Users Startup
folder but not in your profile's Startup folder, there is something not
quite right with your installation.  Are you connected to a high speed
always on internet connection?  Was the machine connected to the
internet when you did the installation?

John
Author
9 May 2009 11:32 PM
Dave Patrick
Since you have lost everything anyway you should clean install rather than
fiddle with this.


To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver
for your drive controller in drive "A")

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en
and
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS08-067.mspx


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"ms" wrote:
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> I will probably post some more messages, as I succeeded in reinstalling
> the
> OS, but lost all my previous settings, so back to where I was 4 years ago,
> and with memory issues as a senior, that will be fun.
>
> Thanks
>
> ms
Author
17 Apr 2009 10:01 PM
Ben Myers
"ms" <m*@invalid.com> wrote in message news:74n7l3F12lqctU1@mid.individual.net...
> I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders under
> Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a Startup menu.
> I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main headings that
> related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I expected to see the icons of
> the running programs in the System Tray.
> Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start Menu to
> modify?

See if this is helpful.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/242258

Ben
Author
17 Apr 2009 10:41 PM
John John (MVP)
Ben Myers wrote:
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> "ms" <m*@invalid.com> wrote in message news:74n7l3F12lqctU1@mid.individual.net...
>> I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders under
>> Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a Startup menu.
>> I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main headings that
>> related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I expected to see the icons of
>> the running programs in the System Tray.
>> Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start Menu to
>> modify?
>
> See if this is helpful.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/242258
>
> Ben

Much as I suspected this wasn't a clean installation.  Thanks for the
link to the article, Ben.
Author
18 Apr 2009 10:00 PM
ms
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"John John (MVP)" <audetw***@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in
news:#4bL626vJHA.5708@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> Ben Myers wrote:
>> "ms" <m*@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:74n7l3F12lqctU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders
>>> under Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a
>>> Startup menu. I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the
>>> 2 main headings that related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I
>>> expected to see the icons of the running programs in the System
>>> Tray. Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active
>>> Start Menu to modify?
>>
>> See if this is helpful.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/242258
>>
>> Ben
>
> Much as I suspected this wasn't a clean installation.  Thanks for the
> link to the article, Ben.

See above, yes it was a re-install.

This situation (W2K continuous reboot out of nowhere), a W98 machine with
boot error message with no previous cause, a friend whose wideband crashed
so his XP crashed, does not leave me with a warm feeling about an OS. They
will crash, sooner or later. I am careful, it still happened. So I am now
looking at regular frequent backups.

ms
Author
18 Apr 2009 9:53 PM
ms
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"Ben Myers" <benjmy***@mindREMOVEspring.com> wrote in
news:u8DKEg6vJHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> "ms" <m*@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:74n7l3F12lqctU1@mid.individual.net...
>> I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders
> under
>> Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a Startup
> menu.
>> I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main headings
> that
>> related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I expected to see the
> icons of
>> the running programs in the System Tray.
>> Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start
>> Menu
> to
>> modify?
>
> See if this is helpful.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/242258
>
> Ben

Thanks, Ben. Very helpful as it explains my situation, install over an
existing installation.

ms