On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:8f9aaae3-67fb-4325-912e-d2044e5d4c4a@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov   .   PING of
> > that host works.   But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME  it
> > pauses and says  Cannot locate a time-server.
>
> > Using other time servers fail the same way.  Can somebody tell me how
> > to fix this?   TIA
>
> The command
> net time /?
> tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax is
>
> NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov

"Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:8f9aaae3-67fb-4325-912e-d2044e5d4c4a@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov . PING of
> > that host works. But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME it
> > pauses and says Cannot locate a time-server.
>
> > Using other time servers fail the same way. Can somebody tell me how
> > to fix this? TIA
>
> The command
> net time /?
> tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax is
>
> NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov

On Jun 12, 8:13 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:b51d7241-fb2e-45a3-b0e2-4d7df3910dc4@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> >news:8f9aaae3-67fb-4325-912e-d2044e5d4c4a@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com....
>
> > >I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov . PING of
> > > that host works. But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME it
> > > pauses and says Cannot locate a time-server.
>
> > > Using other time servers fail the same way. Can somebody tell me how
> > > to fix this? TIA
>
> > The command
> > net time /?
> > tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax is
>
> > NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
>
> As I said, setting the server works.   But getting the time says
> "can't locate a time server".
>
> ============
>
> This may well be but the fact is that you dropped a colon in your command..- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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On Jun 12, 8:13 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:b51d7241-fb2e-45a3-b0e2-4d7df3910dc4@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> >news:8f9aaae3-67fb-4325-912e-d2044e5d4c4a@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov . PING of
> > > that host works. But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME it
> > > pauses and says Cannot locate a time-server.
>
> > > Using other time servers fail the same way. Can somebody tell me how
> > > to fix this? TIA
>
> > The command
> > net time /?
> > tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax is
>
> > NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
>
> As I said, setting the server works. But getting the time says
> "can't locate a time server".
>
> ============
>
> This may well be but the fact is that you dropped a colon in your
> command.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Jun 13, 5:40 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:da44b707-e6e2-4624-8d98-61c077d2c3cb@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 12, 8:13 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> >news:b51d7241-fb2e-45a3-b0e2-4d7df3910dc4@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com....
> > On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> > >news:8f9aaae3-67fb-4325-912e-d2044e5d4c4a@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com....
>
> > > >I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov . PING of
> > > > that host works. But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME it
> > > > pauses and says Cannot locate a time-server.
>
> > > > Using other time servers fail the same way. Can somebody tell me how
> > > > to fix this? TIA
>
> > > The command
> > > net time /?
> > > tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax is
>
> > > NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
>
> > As I said, setting the server works. But getting the time says
> > "can't locate a time server".
>
> > ============
>
> > This may well be but the fact is that you dropped a colon in your
> > command.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Now I believe the problem is that port 123 (SNTP) is blocked.   How
> can I test it to determine if there is a process listening on it and
> that it is not blocked by my router or some piece of Win2K?
>
> ==================
>
> Windows does not "listen" on port 123 - it uses it. It may well be that your
> router or firewall blocks port 123 packets. I would turn off the firewall
> during testing and also run some tests with a different router. For further
> reading I recommend you type the following words into a Google search box:
> port 123 sntp time
> You'll see a number of useful links on this subject. By the way - did you
> try using time.windows.com as your time server?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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On Jun 13, 5:40 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:da44b707-e6e2-4624-8d98-61c077d2c3cb@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 12, 8:13 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> >news:b51d7241-fb2e-45a3-b0e2-4d7df3910dc4@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> > >news:8f9aaae3-67fb-4325-912e-d2044e5d4c4a@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > >I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov . PING of
> > > > that host works. But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME it
> > > > pauses and says Cannot locate a time-server.
>
> > > > Using other time servers fail the same way. Can somebody tell me how
> > > > to fix this? TIA
>
> > > The command
> > > net time /?
> > > tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax is
>
> > > NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
>
> > As I said, setting the server works. But getting the time says
> > "can't locate a time server".
>
> > ============
>
> > This may well be but the fact is that you dropped a colon in your
> > command.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Now I believe the problem is that port 123 (SNTP) is blocked. How
> can I test it to determine if there is a process listening on it and
> that it is not blocked by my router or some piece of Win2K?
>
> ==================
>
> Windows does not "listen" on port 123 - it uses it. It may well be that
> your
> router or firewall blocks port 123 packets. I would turn off the firewall
> during testing and also run some tests with a different router. For
> further
> reading I recommend you type the following words into a Google search box:
> port 123 sntp time
> You'll see a number of useful links on this subject. By the way - did you
> try using time.windows.com as your time server?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Jun 13, 2:43 pm, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:96d9eec5-01d7-46d2-9c9d-885f2893570b@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 13, 5:40 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> >news:da44b707-e6e2-4624-8d98-61c077d2c3cb@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com....
> > On Jun 12, 8:13 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> > >news:b51d7241-fb2e-45a3-b0e2-4d7df3910dc4@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com....
> > > On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:8f9aaae3-67fb-4325-912e-d2044e5d4c4a@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > >I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov . PING of
> > > > > that host works. But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME it
> > > > > pauses and says Cannot locate a time-server.
>
> > > > > Using other time servers fail the same way. Can somebody tell me how
> > > > > to fix this? TIA
>
> > > > The command
> > > > net time /?
> > > > tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax is
>
> > > > NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
>
> > > As I said, setting the server works. But getting the time says
> > > "can't locate a time server".
>
> > > ============
>
> > > This may well be but the fact is that you dropped a colon in your
> > > command.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Now I believe the problem is that port 123 (SNTP) is blocked. How
> > can I test it to determine if there is a process listening on it and
> > that it is not blocked by my router or some piece of Win2K?
>
> > ==================
>
> > Windows does not "listen" on port 123 - it uses it. It may well be that
> > your
> > router or firewall blocks port 123 packets. I would turn off the firewall
> > during testing and also run some tests with a different router. For
> > further
> > reading I recommend you type the following words into a Google search box:
> > port 123 sntp time
> > You'll see a number of useful links on this subject. By the way - did you
> > try using time.windows.com as your time server?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Windows DOES listen on port 123 for SNTP info.   From the Kloth paper
> I found using your suggestion to Google:
>
> "The SNTP protocol is described in RFC-2030.
> The NTP time server is listening on UDP port 123.
> SNTP formats are compatible to the NTP protocol specification, using a
> simplified access strategy for servers and clients; the access
> paradigm is identical to the UDP/TIME protocol."
>
> Switching to time.windows.com did not  help.  I don't see anything in
> my Linksys router that is blocking anything.  I installed Atomic Clock
> Set and it works!
>
> I don't know how to find out what Win2KSP4 is blocking.   In fact I
> don't know if it has a firewall in it.  Can anyone tell me?
>
> That leaves my Antivirus, AVAST.   or maybe something that CCleaner
> install.  Or Spyware Blaster that I also use.
>
> =============
>
> Win2000 does not have an inbuilt firewall. I don't remember if it has a Safe
> Mode with Networking but if it has then you should try it in order to
> eliminate interference from your various protective programs.
>
> There is another potential problem. Most registry cleaners are considered
> either useless (at best) or damaging (at worst). Have you considered the
> possibility that CCleaner might be the cause of your problem? Uninstalling
> won't help you - if it damaged the registry then the damage is done.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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On Jun 13, 2:43 pm, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:96d9eec5-01d7-46d2-9c9d-885f2893570b@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 13, 5:40 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> >news:da44b707-e6e2-4624-8d98-61c077d2c3cb@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 12, 8:13 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> > >news:b51d7241-fb2e-45a3-b0e2-4d7df3910dc4@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:8f9aaae3-67fb-4325-912e-d2044e5d4c4a@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > >I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov . PING of
> > > > > that host works. But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME it
> > > > > pauses and says Cannot locate a time-server.
>
> > > > > Using other time servers fail the same way. Can somebody tell me
> > > > > how
> > > > > to fix this? TIA
>
> > > > The command
> > > > net time /?
> > > > tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax
> > > > is
>
> > > > NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
>
> > > As I said, setting the server works. But getting the time says
> > > "can't locate a time server".
>
> > > ============
>
> > > This may well be but the fact is that you dropped a colon in your
> > > command.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Now I believe the problem is that port 123 (SNTP) is blocked. How
> > can I test it to determine if there is a process listening on it and
> > that it is not blocked by my router or some piece of Win2K?
>
> > ==================
>
> > Windows does not "listen" on port 123 - it uses it. It may well be that
> > your
> > router or firewall blocks port 123 packets. I would turn off the
> > firewall
> > during testing and also run some tests with a different router. For
> > further
> > reading I recommend you type the following words into a Google search
> > box:
> > port 123 sntp time
> > You'll see a number of useful links on this subject. By the way - did
> > you
> > try using time.windows.com as your time server?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Windows DOES listen on port 123 for SNTP info. From the Kloth paper
> I found using your suggestion to Google:
>
> "The SNTP protocol is described in RFC-2030.
> The NTP time server is listening on UDP port 123.
> SNTP formats are compatible to the NTP protocol specification, using a
> simplified access strategy for servers and clients; the access
> paradigm is identical to the UDP/TIME protocol."
>
> Switching to time.windows.com did not help. I don't see anything in
> my Linksys router that is blocking anything. I installed Atomic Clock
> Set and it works!
>
> I don't know how to find out what Win2KSP4 is blocking. In fact I
> don't know if it has a firewall in it. Can anyone tell me?
>
> That leaves my Antivirus, AVAST. or maybe something that CCleaner
> install. Or Spyware Blaster that I also use.
>
> =============
>
> Win2000 does not have an inbuilt firewall. I don't remember if it has a
> Safe
> Mode with Networking but if it has then you should try it in order to
> eliminate interference from your various protective programs.
>
> There is another potential problem. Most registry cleaners are considered
> either useless (at best) or damaging (at worst). Have you considered the
> possibility that CCleaner might be the cause of your problem? Uninstalling
> won't help you - if it damaged the registry then the damage is done.- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Jun 15, 9:59 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:9e675a1b-eee4-4aaa-a6c6-400ca58d9f31@g15g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 13, 2:43 pm, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> >news:96d9eec5-01d7-46d2-9c9d-885f2893570b@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com....
> > On Jun 13, 5:40 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> > >news:da44b707-e6e2-4624-8d98-61c077d2c3cb@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com....
> > > On Jun 12, 8:13 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:b51d7241-fb2e-45a3-b0e2-4d7df3910dc4@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:8f9aaae3-67fb-4325-912e-d2044e5d4c4a@s16g2000vbp.googlegroups..com...
>
> > > > > >I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov . PING of
> > > > > > that host works. But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME it
> > > > > > pauses and says Cannot locate a time-server.
>
> > > > > > Using other time servers fail the same way. Can somebody tell me
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > to fix this? TIA
>
> > > > > The command
> > > > > net time /?
> > > > > tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax
> > > > > is
>
> > > > > NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
>
> > > > As I said, setting the server works. But getting the time says
> > > > "can't locate a time server".
>
> > > > ============
>
> > > > This may well be but the fact is that you dropped a colon in your
> > > > command.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Now I believe the problem is that port 123 (SNTP) is blocked. How
> > > can I test it to determine if there is a process listening on it and
> > > that it is not blocked by my router or some piece of Win2K?
>
> > > ==================
>
> > > Windows does not "listen" on port 123 - it uses it. It may well be that
> > > your
> > > router or firewall blocks port 123 packets. I would turn off the
> > > firewall
> > > during testing and also run some tests with a different router. For
> > > further
> > > reading I recommend you type the following words into a Google search
> > > box:
> > > port 123 sntp time
> > > You'll see a number of useful links on this subject. By the way - did
> > > you
> > > try using time.windows.com as your time server?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Windows DOES listen on port 123 for SNTP info. From the Kloth paper
> > I found using your suggestion to Google:
>
> > "The SNTP protocol is described in RFC-2030.
> > The NTP time server is listening on UDP port 123.
> > SNTP formats are compatible to the NTP protocol specification, using a
> > simplified access strategy for servers and clients; the access
> > paradigm is identical to the UDP/TIME protocol."
>
> > Switching to time.windows.com did not help. I don't see anything in
> > my Linksys router that is blocking anything. I installed Atomic Clock
> > Set and it works!
>
> > I don't know how to find out what Win2KSP4 is blocking. In fact I
> > don't know if it has a firewall in it. Can anyone tell me?
>
> > That leaves my Antivirus, AVAST. or maybe something that CCleaner
> > install. Or Spyware Blaster that I also use.
>
> > =============
>
> > Win2000 does not have an inbuilt firewall. I don't remember if it has a
> > Safe
> > Mode with Networking but if it has then you should try it in order to
> > eliminate interference from your various protective programs.
>
> > There is another potential problem. Most registry cleaners are considered
> > either useless (at best) or damaging (at worst). Have you considered the
> > possibility that CCleaner might be the cause of your problem? Uninstalling
> > won't help you - if it damaged the registry then the damage is done.- Hide
> > quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I tried Safe Mode with Net (no anti-virus software).  W32time still
> could not find the time server.  Atomic Time Sync works fine.  Looking
> through the registry for W32* didn't show any unusual (smashed)
> entries but I didn't see any entry that holds the time-server host
> address either.  I have no evidence that CCleaner caused any problem.
> Is there a way to get W2K to reinstall W32Time and related files?
>
> =================
>
> If your registry "cleaner" modified the some sensitive part of the registry
> then it's anyone's guess what it might have done, largely because registry
> cleaners have to do a lot of guessing when they go about their "cleaning"
> business. After all a typical registry contains 10,000 keys or more, and how
> is a registry cleaner supposed to know the exact function of each of them?
> Registry cleaners work by applying the FUD factor: Fear, Uncertainty and
> Doubt. They report a large number of so-called "errors" and
> "inconsistencies", thus creating fear in the user's mind. They then ask him
> if he really wants to continue running his machine in this semi-crippled
> way. This is the Uncertainty and Doubt part. They then go about their
> business and boast at the end that the machine is now "optimised". Most
> users will believe this because they never ran any benchmarch tests. If they
> had then they would realise that the machine performs no better and no worse
> than before - except that some registry cleaners inadvertently break certain
> things.
>
> OK, I'll get off my soap box. If I was in your position then I would type
> this into a Google search box, then examine the most promising links:
>
> install windows "time server"
>
> Good luck!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

> On Jun 15, 9:59 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>>
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>> On Jun 13, 2:43 pm, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
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>>> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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>>> On Jun 13, 5:40 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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>>>> On Jun 12, 8:13 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Jun 11, 9:30 am, "Pegasus [MVP]" <n***@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Stubby" <William.Plum***@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> I used NET TIME /SETSNTP time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov . PING of
>>>>>>> that host works. But if I just ask for the time with NET TIME it
>>>>>>> pauses and says Cannot locate a time-server.
>>>>>>> Using other time servers fail the same way. Can somebody tell me
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> to fix this? TIA
>>>>>> The command
>>>>>> net time /?
>>>>>> tells you what the switches and their syntax is. The correct syntax
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> NET TIME /SETSNTP:time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
>>>>> As I said, setting the server works. But getting the time says
>>>>> "can't locate a time server".
>>>>> ============
>>>>> This may well be but the fact is that you dropped a colon in your
>>>>> command.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>> Now I believe the problem is that port 123 (SNTP) is blocked. How
>>>> can I test it to determine if there is a process listening on it and
>>>> that it is not blocked by my router or some piece of Win2K?
>>>> ==================
>>>> Windows does not "listen" on port 123 - it uses it. It may well be that
>>>> your
>>>> router or firewall blocks port 123 packets. I would turn off the
>>>> firewall
>>>> during testing and also run some tests with a different router. For
>>>> further
>>>> reading I recommend you type the following words into a Google search
>>>> box:
>>>> port 123 sntp time
>>>> You'll see a number of useful links on this subject. By the way - did
>>>> you
>>>> try using time.windows.com as your time server?- Hide quoted text -
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>>> Windows DOES listen on port 123 for SNTP info. From the Kloth paper
>>> I found using your suggestion to Google:
>>> "The SNTP protocol is described in RFC-2030.
>>> The NTP time server is listening on UDP port 123.
>>> SNTP formats are compatible to the NTP protocol specification, using a
>>> simplified access strategy for servers and clients; the access
>>> paradigm is identical to the UDP/TIME protocol."
>>> Switching to time.windows.com did not help. I don't see anything in
>>> my Linksys router that is blocking anything. I installed Atomic Clock
>>> Set and it works!
>>> I don't know how to find out what Win2KSP4 is blocking. In fact I
>>> don't know if it has a firewall in it. Can anyone tell me?
>>> That leaves my Antivirus, AVAST. or maybe something that CCleaner
>>> install. Or Spyware Blaster that I also use.
>>> =============
>>> Win2000 does not have an inbuilt firewall. I don't remember if it has a
>>> Safe
>>> Mode with Networking but if it has then you should try it in order to
>>> eliminate interference from your various protective programs.
>>> There is another potential problem. Most registry cleaners are considered
>>> either useless (at best) or damaging (at worst). Have you considered the
>>> possibility that CCleaner might be the cause of your problem? Uninstalling
>>> won't help you - if it damaged the registry then the damage is done.- Hide
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>> I tried Safe Mode with Net (no anti-virus software).  W32time still
>> could not find the time server.  Atomic Time Sync works fine.  Looking
>> through the registry for W32* didn't show any unusual (smashed)
>> entries but I didn't see any entry that holds the time-server host
>> address either.  I have no evidence that CCleaner caused any problem.
>> Is there a way to get W2K to reinstall W32Time and related files?
>>
>> =================
>>
>> If your registry "cleaner" modified the some sensitive part of the registry
>> then it's anyone's guess what it might have done, largely because registry
>> cleaners have to do a lot of guessing when they go about their "cleaning"
>> business. After all a typical registry contains 10,000 keys or more, and how
>> is a registry cleaner supposed to know the exact function of each of them?
>> Registry cleaners work by applying the FUD factor: Fear, Uncertainty and
>> Doubt. They report a large number of so-called "errors" and
>> "inconsistencies", thus creating fear in the user's mind. They then ask him
>> if he really wants to continue running his machine in this semi-crippled
>> way. This is the Uncertainty and Doubt part. They then go about their
>> business and boast at the end that the machine is now "optimised". Most
>> users will believe this because they never ran any benchmarch tests. If they
>> had then they would realise that the machine performs no better and no worse
>> than before - except that some registry cleaners inadvertently break certain
>> things.
>>
>> OK, I'll get off my soap box. If I was in your position then I would type
>> this into a Google search box, then examine the most promising links:
>>
>> install windows "time server"
>>
>> Good luck!- Hide quoted text -
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>
> Your rant about registry cleaners is unwarranted.