"CWLee" wrote:
>
> (I'm not sure this is the proper newsgroup, so I welcome
> redirection.)
>
> First the background:
>
> I have two side by side desktops:  One running W-2000-Pro,
> SP-4, IE-6, classic mode; the other is running Vista
> Ultimate 64-bit, SP-1, IE-7, classic mode.
>
> Several months ago a friend connected these with a cable
> (Ethernet?) which, until a day ago, allowed me to access
> each computer from the other.  On the Windows Explorer
> screen of each there was a Z drive shown, and then the C
> drive of the other computer.  By clicking on the C drive
> under the Z drive I could access the files on the other
> computer.  It worked that way on both machines.
>
> Now the problem:
>
> Yesterday I downloaded some updates to the Windows 2000-Pro
> machine.  This required a restart of the computer, and I did
> that.  Since then my Vista machine still shows the Z drive/C
> drive, and allows me to access the files on the Windows
> 2000-Pro machine.  BUT, on the Windows 2000-Pro machine the
> Z drive/C drive entry has disappeared, and I cannot access
> the files on the other machine.
>
> How can I reestablish the two-way communication between the
> 2 desktops?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> ----------
> CWLee
> Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
> cows.  Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
> promote for performance, not preferences.
>

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> This article should sort it.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308582
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
> newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "CWLee" wrote:
>>
>> (I'm not sure this is the proper newsgroup, so I welcome
>> redirection.)
>>
>> First the background:
>>
>> I have two side by side desktops:  One running
>> W-2000-Pro, SP-4, IE-6, classic mode; the other is
>> running Vista Ultimate 64-bit, SP-1, IE-7, classic mode.
>>
>> Several months ago a friend connected these with a cable
>> (Ethernet?) which, until a day ago, allowed me to access
>> each computer from the other.  On the Windows Explorer
>> screen of each there was a Z drive shown, and then the C
>> drive of the other computer.  By clicking on the C drive
>> under the Z drive I could access the files on the other
>> computer.  It worked that way on both machines.
>>
>> Now the problem:
>>
>> Yesterday I downloaded some updates to the Windows
>> 2000-Pro machine.  This required a restart of the
>> computer, and I did that.  Since then my Vista machine
>> still shows the Z drive/C drive, and allows me to access
>> the files on the Windows 2000-Pro machine.  BUT, on the
>> Windows 2000-Pro machine the Z drive/C drive entry has
>> disappeared, and I cannot access the files on the other
>> machine.
>>
>> How can I reestablish the two-way communication between
>> the 2 desktops?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> ----------
>> CWLee
>> Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
>> cows.  Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas,
>> and
>> promote for performance, not preferences.
>>

"CWLee" wrote:
>
> Well, the article is for XP, not either W-2000 or Vista.
>
> Nevertheless, I'll print it and read it, just in case it gives me some
> ideas to try.
>
> Thanks - and if you have a reference specifically for this problem in
> W-2000/Vista I'd appreciate it.

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote:

> The OS really doesn't matter. Especially since you already
> have the user accounts and permissions.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
> newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "CWLee" wrote:
>>
>> Well, the article is for XP, not either W-2000 or Vista.
>>
>> Nevertheless, I'll print it and read it, just in case it
>> gives me some ideas to try.
>>
>> Thanks - and if you have a reference specifically for
>> this problem in W-2000/Vista I'd appreciate it.
>

"CWLee" wrote:
>
> I printed the pages you suggested, and have had the following experience:
>
> 1.  On both my W-2000-Pro desktop and my Vista desktop, when I click
> Start, "My Network Places" is not an option provided.  Thus I cannot
> figure out how to use method #1.
>
> 2.  When I try the ideas in method #2 on my W-2000-Pro desktop, I don't
> know what to enter in the box that asks for the "UNC path for the server
> and shared resource in the following format:  \\server name\share name."
> That desktop has the name, entered by me when I set it up, of "System-3".
> When I set up the Vista machine I named it "System-4". Would
> \\System-4\System-3" be what I should type in that box?
>
> 3.  I did not try the 3rd method, since it seemed to involve the same
> issue mentioned in 2. above.
>
> Does it make any difference whether I'm trying to do this as the
> Administrator or as the only user?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Further assistance appreciated.

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you open Windows Explorer and paste \\system-4 in the
> address bar and hit enter key, what do you see? If you can
> find the computer in this window then double-click it and
> the shares available to you should appear and this is the
> UNC path you're looking for.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
> newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "CWLee" wrote:
>>
>> I printed the pages you suggested, and have had the
>> following experience:
>>
>> 1.  On both my W-2000-Pro desktop and my Vista desktop,
>> when I click Start, "My Network Places" is not an option
>> provided.  Thus I cannot figure out how to use method #1.
>>
>> 2.  When I try the ideas in method #2 on my W-2000-Pro
>> desktop, I don't know what to enter in the box that asks
>> for the "UNC path for the server and shared resource in
>> the following format:  \\server name\share name." That
>> desktop has the name, entered by me when I set it up, of
>> "System-3". When I set up the Vista machine I named it
>> "System-4". Would \\System-4\System-3" be what I should
>> type in that box?
>>
>> 3.  I did not try the 3rd method, since it seemed to
>> involve the same issue mentioned in 2. above.
>>
>> Does it make any difference whether I'm trying to do this
>> as the Administrator or as the only user?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Further assistance appreciated.
>

"CWLee" wrote:
>
> Thanks - some progress maybe, but not there yet - see following.
>
> On my System-3 I opened Windows explorer, and in the address bar I typed
> \\system-4   and then hit the enter key.  I did find system-4, and
> double-clicked on it.  Here is what came up next:
>
> System-4
>      C
>    +Public
>    +Users
>      Printers
>
> I then went to the second method in the document you originally suggested,
> and used   \\System-4\C   Since I had selected drive Z in the box above
> that, I ended up having the following entry in Windows Explorer:
> (network icon) C on 'System-4' (Z:)
>
> However, when I click on that I get a screen that says:
>
>          X     Z:\ is not accessible
>                 Access is denied
>                 (OK button)
>
> So, what next?
>
> Thanks again.

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Make sure the that both machines are part of the same
> workgroup and that you logon to both using exactly the
> same username and password.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
> newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "CWLee" wrote:
>>
>> Thanks - some progress maybe, but not there yet - see
>> following.
>>
>> On my System-3 I opened Windows explorer, and in the
>> address bar I typed \\system-4   and then hit the enter
>> key.  I did find system-4, and double-clicked on it.
>> Here is what came up next:
>>
>> System-4
>>      C
>>    +Public
>>    +Users
>>      Printers
>>
>> I then went to the second method in the document you
>> originally suggested, and used   \\System-4\C   Since I
>> had selected drive Z in the box above that, I ended up
>> having the following entry in Windows Explorer: (network
>> icon) C on 'System-4' (Z:)
>>
>> However, when I click on that I get a screen that says:
>>
>>          X     Z:\ is not accessible
>>                 Access is denied
>>                 (OK button)
>>
>> So, what next?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>

"CWLee" wrote:
>
> How do I "make sure" that both machines are part of the same workgroup?
> Where do I look on both computers (one is W-2000-Pro, the other is Vista
> Ultimate) to make sure the workgroup name is the same?
>
> I have always had different usernames and passwords on each machine, and
> it worked fine before.  Are you saying I need to change my usernames and
> passwords so they are identical on both machines?
>
> Thanks.

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> No, that's fine but the account you use when you logon to
> computer A must also exist on computer B with the exact
> same password and vice-versa.
>
> Control Panel|System|Computer Name
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
> newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "CWLee" wrote:
>>
>> How do I "make sure" that both machines are part of the
>> same workgroup? Where do I look on both computers (one is
>> W-2000-Pro, the other is Vista Ultimate) to make sure the
>> workgroup name is the same?
>>
>> I have always had different usernames and passwords on
>> each machine, and it worked fine before.  Are you saying
>> I need to change my usernames and passwords so they are
>> identical on both machines?
>>
>> Thanks.
>

"CWLee" wrote:
>
> Now I'm really confused.  Your last messages seems internally
> inconsistent - which I think means I just don't understand what you are
> saying.
>
> My W2000-Pro desktop is named System-3, and has password P1 for the
> administrator, and P2 for the only user.
>
> My Vista desktop is named System-4, and has password P3 for the
> administrator, and P4 for the only user.
>
> Both desktops have had those names and sets of passwords for a couple of
> years.
>
> In the past I had, on each desktop, under the C drive, a $C (Z) drive.
> When I clicked on that I was then able to access the C drive on the other
> computer.  No passwords involved. That system worked fine for well over a
> year.  Only within the past week has the $C (Z) disappeared from System-3;
> it is still on System-4 and works fine there.  What I want to do is get it
> back, working, on System-3.
>
> Does that restatement of the problem change your series of suggestions?
>
> I appreciate the time you have taken to continue this dialog, and I
> realize it probably seems just as frustrating to you as it does to me.
>
> Thanks.

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's easier to do if the accounts and passwords are the
> same. This way you only need one account on each machine.
> It is possible to do with different accounts but you must
> have both accounts on both machines with the exact same
> password. It's just more work in the area of
> administration but definitely doable.
>
> C$ is an administrative share and would not be visible to
> anyone who is not a member of the local administrator's
> group. So you must logon to each machine as an admin user
> on both machines for that to work.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
> newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "CWLee" wrote:
>>
>> Now I'm really confused.  Your last messages seems
>> internally inconsistent - which I think means I just
>> don't understand what you are saying.
>>
>> My W2000-Pro desktop is named System-3, and has password
>> P1 for the administrator, and P2 for the only user.
>>
>> My Vista desktop is named System-4, and has password P3
>> for the administrator, and P4 for the only user.
>>
>> Both desktops have had those names and sets of passwords
>> for a couple of years.
>>
>> In the past I had, on each desktop, under the C drive, a
>> $C (Z) drive. When I clicked on that I was then able to
>> access the C drive on the other computer.  No passwords
>> involved. That system worked fine for well over a year.
>> Only within the past week has the $C (Z) disappeared from
>> System-3; it is still on System-4 and works fine there.
>> What I want to do is get it back, working, on System-3.
>>
>> Does that restatement of the problem change your series
>> of suggestions?
>>
>> I appreciate the time you have taken to continue this
>> dialog, and I realize it probably seems just as
>> frustrating to you as it does to me.
>>
>> Thanks.
>

"CWLee" wrote:
>
> I appreciate all the time you have taken with me on this. Nevertheless,
> I'm just getting more and more confused and frustrated with the whole
> process.
>
> What do you think would happen if I just unplugged the cable between the
> two computers, deleted the references to C$ and (Z) and then, after an
> hour or so, plugged the cables back in?  Is it possible that the computers
> would then configure themselves so each could see the other?

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I don't see that making any difference. Did you try logging
>on as local administrator on both? Can you then map the
>drive below?
>
> \\System-4\C$
>
> The $ means it is a hidden share so you can't browse to it
> but should have no problem mapping it as long as the user
> account has local administrative rights on the target
> machine.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
> newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "CWLee" wrote:
>>
>> I appreciate all the time you have taken with me on this.
>> Nevertheless, I'm just getting more and more confused and
>> frustrated with the whole process.
>>
>> What do you think would happen if I just unplugged the
>> cable between the two computers, deleted the references
>> to C$ and (Z) and then, after an hour or so, plugged the
>> cables back in?  Is it possible that the computers would
>> then configure themselves so each could see the other?
>

"CWLee" wrote:
>
> Yes, I can map using \\System-4\C$   however when I click finish, after a
> moment of trying that, I get a screen that asks for a  "Network Password"
> with a place for  "Connect As" and "Password".
>
> I don't know what to put in those fields.  I have tried every combination
> of user name and password that has been used on these two desktops in the
> last couple of years, and nothing works.  It must be that either the
> systems came with a "Network Password" I never recorded, or I perhaps
> somehow changed it and did not record it.
>
> So, I have moved another step along, but am still stuck.
>
> Any suggestions for "Network Passwords" etc?

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Something else you can do;
>
> While logged onto "System-3" start a command session
>
> Start|Run|cmd.exe
>
> then paste into the black window
>
> net use Z: \\System-4\C$
> (note that there are three spaces in this command)
>
> and press enter
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
> newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>

"CWLee" wrote:
>
> When I did what you suggested below I received:
>
> System error 67 has occurred.
>
> The network name cannot be found.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE>
>
>
>
>
>
> Other ideas?

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> See the other thread.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in
> newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "CWLee" wrote:
>>
>> When I did what you suggested below I received:
>>
>> System error 67 has occurred.
>>
>> The network name cannot be found.
>>
>> C:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Other ideas?

"CWLee" <cdubya***@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message news:OiMvjdU7JHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> (I'm not sure this is the proper newsgroup, so I welcome
> redirection.)
> First the background:
> I have two side by side desktops:  One running W-2000-Pro,
> SP-4, IE-6, classic mode; the other is running Vista
> Ultimate 64-bit, SP-1, IE-7, classic mode.
> Several months ago a friend connected these with a cable
> (Ethernet?) which, until a day ago, allowed me to access
> each computer from the other.  On the Windows Explorer
> screen of each there was a Z drive shown, and then the C
> drive of the other computer.  By clicking on the C drive
> under the Z drive I could access the files on the other
> computer.  It worked that way on both machines.
> Now the problem:
> Yesterday I downloaded some updates to the Windows 2000-Pro
> machine.  This required a restart of the computer, and I did
> that.  Since then my Vista machine still shows the Z drive/C
> drive, and allows me to access the files on the Windows
> 2000-Pro machine.  BUT, on the Windows 2000-Pro machine the
> Z drive/C drive entry has disappeared, and I cannot access
> the files on the other machine.
> How can I reestablish the two-way communication between the
> 2 desktops?